Astros controversy

[D-train]

He went with the classic, "I am sorry if anyone was offended"......Apology.

Guess what buddy, IF nobody was offended you wouldn't have to be apologizing.

I am sorry if anyone was offended by my actions.

[Dr Naysay]

Th3e article said the case was dropped in court but that the MLB had enough evidence to convict him in their eyes.
Does anyone have a link to the evidence that the MLB has against Osuna...?
Law Enforcers typically take photos of the alleged victim and if nothing looks obvious then they will even come back the next day to photograph signs of abuse that might have cropped up overnight.
In many cases it's the woman who initiates contact with the man.

Ray Rice and Vazquez were caught on camera assaulting women and essentially ended up with the same legal ruling Osuna did. MLB interviewed the woman and decided the punishment was necessary, Osuna also said he had CCTV evidence which proved him innocent and yet he never actually produced any video footage which is decidedly odd. Essentially it was a plea deal with the MLB, don't contest a ban and we will make it just 75 games.

[Donn Beach]

this was supposed to be quoted to dtrain comment

yea, and it seems he was tying to offend some journalists, how can you go out of you way to try and offend someone and then wonder about someone being offended? He should just show remorse for opening his mouth and leave it at that. You are on the national stage, and you are flipping shit at some journalists, how dumb is that? If you are going to try and challenge journalists, you better be pretty sharp or just don't talk. Its not about all the background to the case, its about the wisdom of keeping your mouth shut

According to the report by SI's Stephanie Apstein, during the celebration in the Houston Astros' clubhouse after the team's 6-4 victory over the New York Yankees in Game 6 of the American League Championship Series on Saturday, assistant general manager Brandon Taubman turned to a group of female reporters -- including one wearing a purple domestic violence awareness bracelet -- and repeatedly yelled, "Thank God we got (Roberto) Osuna! I'm so f---ing glad we got Osuna!"

The shouts appeared to be directed specifically at the reporter wearing the bracelet, NPR reported Tuesday night. Taubman, according to the report, has complained in the past when that reporter tweeted about domestic violence awareness on nights when Osuna pitched.

[Donn Beach]

ballplayers get to talk smack, but there are risks, if it plays bad on the national stage it can backfire, workers in the FO should not try to talk smack, it might be unfair, but its a different environment than ballplayers

[Dr Naysay]

Starting to make sense now regarding what happened. Taubman was targeting one specific reporter who had frequently written about players in various sports and domestic abuse and had specifically been critical of Houston trading for Osuna.

Houston have made a real eff up of this though,first denying it and then when more reporters came forward saying they heard it too they then decide to come up with that awful explanation.

I think BPJ is on to something, I wonder if Taubman was the driving force in making that trade and decided to vent towards a New York journalist after they beat the Yankees.

[Dr Naysay]

This made me laugh!!!!

@jorgearangure: "The Sinaloa Cartel profusely apologizes for the events that occurred on Oct. 17 in Culiacán, and offers a public apology for our role in this incident." Pretty crazy that the Sinaloa drug cartel has a better PR staff than the Houston Astros.

https://twitter.com/jorgearangure/statu ... 14662?s=21

[Donn Beach]

Starting to make sense now regarding what happened. Taubman was targeting one specific reporter who had frequently written about players in various sports and domestic abuse and had specifically been critical of Houston trading for Osuna.

Houston have made a real eff up of this though,first denying it and then when more reporters came forward saying they heard it too they then decide to come up with that awful explanation.

I think BPJ is on to something, I wonder if Taubman was the driving force in making that trade and decided to vent towards a New York journalist after they beat the Yankees.

exactly, this was a personal little grudge between him and a journalist he felt had been unfair to Acuna and the Astros. It had nothing to do with the game that was played, it was very specific, that is what is so stupid about him claiming he was misunderstood. Its like yelling fuck you at someone and they offering an apology that you are sorry if anybody happened to be offended by it, duh. Maybe she was unfair, i am confident Taubman felt that way, he felt victimized. The point is, as it was stated, its wise not to pick fights with folks that buy their ink by the barrel. Particularly for a FO, that would be my council if I was his boss. Maybe she is a total jerk, makes no difference. I believe his job is to get along with the press, not to try and needle them

[Dr Naysay]

Two relevant quotes from this article..... https://www.npr.org/2019/10/22/77236886 ... 1818852077

Taubman is considered part of the front office's nerd squad — executives who place high importance on data analysis in service of success on the baseball diamond. The team's number crunchers considered Osuna a steal, because he was damaged goods, or in financial terms, a distressed asset.

That reporter has tweeted repeatedly about the issue over the years. Taubman complained last year that some of the reporter's informational tweets — promoting domestic violence hotline telephone numbers, for example — appeared moments after Osuna entered several Astros games in relief.

[Donn Beach]

yeah Luhnow has been criticized for that, he is the most totally numbers oriented GM out there, he would sign Hitler without hesitation if his numbers looked good, nothing else matters to him. Interesting about Taubman, for some reason i was envisioning a "baseball guy", having issues with female writers. Ludnow isn't having anybody like that around him, so it as a nerd thing. that makes sense, without social graces. I can see him trying to explain it to Luhnow, think it would sound real, well...she started it.


thinking back on the Hawks and Frank, they bungled that pretty good, the general DV issue. Remember Schneider made a comment in regards to why the decided to draft him with the baggage. And he alluded to what a great edge rusher he is. Well yeah, he beats up women, but just look at him on the edge! But Schneider is one heck of a great GM. He has the ability to run a football team but his skills go beyond that. Its like political skills, he is a glad hander, at least he sure comes off as one. Couldn't imagine him ever getting into a public spat. All the player issues and all that, and never a negative word out of him. The RW contract, some viewed that as confrontational. I doubt Schneider ever quite smiling, as he happily took RW to the cleaners, that contract was a fantastic bit of negotiations. Maybe taking to the cleaners is not accurate, But RW sure backed down from all the extras he wanted. Wilson had put himself in position to push qb contracts into a new frontier, but he just totally tossed it out the window, took a very standard contract from JS and signed it. That was a heck of a good deal for the Hawks

[Moe Gibbs]

Ray Rice and Vazquez were caught on camera assaulting women and essentially ended up with the same legal ruling Osuna did. MLB interviewed the woman and decided the punishment was necessary, Osuna also said he had CCTV evidence which proved him innocent and yet he never actually produced any video footage which is decidedly odd. Essentially it was a plea deal with the MLB, don't contest a ban and we will make it just 75 games.

If the MLB has ANY sort of proof [like photos of the injuries and a doctor's statement] that he assaulted this woman, then throw the book at him.
If not, then it just looks like the MLB is cowtowwing to our power drunk news media.