Sept. 4th ~ 3 day Oakland Covid vacation over. Rangers in town Game Thread

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Post by bpj » Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:10 pm

D-train wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:02 pm
bpj wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:00 pm
Putting Moore at 2B is exactly what they should have done for Seager before they saddled him at 3B which demands more offense.

He could have a much higher career WAR as a 2B, imo. Positional scarcity. His bat shines even brighter at 2B in other words.

Same with Moore. Sure, he could play a serviceable 1B, but if he can play 2B, why tf saddle him anywhere else?
Cause the wanted Ackley at 2B. That worked out awesome. lol

btw Lopes wasn't hitting well but still better than Long.
At this point Utility player might actually be our biggest hole
:shock:

Personally I'd rarely use one and just keep the fastest mother effer i can find to pinch run. Why would we want our best players on the bench, stop treating them like babies and let them play every day.

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Re: Sept. 4th ~ 3 day Oakland Covid vacation over. Rangers in town Game Thread

Post by D-train » Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:16 pm

bpj wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:10 pm
D-train wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:02 pm
bpj wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:00 pm
Putting Moore at 2B is exactly what they should have done for Seager before they saddled him at 3B which demands more offense.

He could have a much higher career WAR as a 2B, imo. Positional scarcity. His bat shines even brighter at 2B in other words.

Same with Moore. Sure, he could play a serviceable 1B, but if he can play 2B, why tf saddle him anywhere else?
Cause the wanted Ackley at 2B. That worked out awesome. lol

btw Lopes wasn't hitting well but still better than Long.
At this point Utility player might actually be our biggest hole
:shock:

Personally I'd rarely use one and just keep the fastest mother effer i can find to pinch run. Why would we want our best players on the bench, stop treating them like babies and let them play every day.
Oh no, during this incredibly long 60 game season including the four day break they just had we need to rest guys at least 2-3 times a week so they are fresh for the playoffs.
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Re: Sept. 4th ~ 3 day Oakland Covid vacation over. Rangers in town Game Thread

Post by Sexymarinersfan » Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:29 pm

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Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:00 pm
Putting Moore at 2B is exactly what they should have done for Seager before they saddled him at 3B which demands more offense.

He could have a much higher career WAR as a 2B, imo. Positional scarcity. His bat shines even brighter at 2B in other words.

Same with Moore. Sure, he could play a serviceable 1B, but if he can play 2B, why tf saddle him anywhere else?
Seager has been awesome at third. Besides, the Ackley experiment at 2B was going on at that time.

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Post by Sexymarinersfan » Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:31 pm

bpj wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:10 pm
D-train wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:02 pm
bpj wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:00 pm
Putting Moore at 2B is exactly what they should have done for Seager before they saddled him at 3B which demands more offense.

He could have a much higher career WAR as a 2B, imo. Positional scarcity. His bat shines even brighter at 2B in other words.

Same with Moore. Sure, he could play a serviceable 1B, but if he can play 2B, why tf saddle him anywhere else?
Cause the wanted Ackley at 2B. That worked out awesome. lol

btw Lopes wasn't hitting well but still better than Long.
At this point Utility player might actually be our biggest hole
:shock:

Personally I'd rarely use one and just keep the fastest mother effer i can find to pinch run. Why would we want our best players on the bench, stop treating them like babies and let them play every day.
Haggerty, Moore, Long, Lopes, France, Gordon and Marmo all play utility roles. I think we're covered lol.

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Post by D-train » Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:35 pm

France is the Perfect DH. He can hit like a bastard and can adequately play multiple positions giving our weary and battle scarred position players a day off every now and then.
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Re: Sept. 4th ~ 3 day Oakland Covid vacation over. Rangers in town Game Thread

Post by bpj » Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:06 am

Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:29 pm
bpj wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:00 pm
Putting Moore at 2B is exactly what they should have done for Seager before they saddled him at 3B which demands more offense.

He could have a much higher career WAR as a 2B, imo. Positional scarcity. His bat shines even brighter at 2B in other words.

Same with Moore. Sure, he could play a serviceable 1B, but if he can play 2B, why tf saddle him anywhere else?
Seager has been awesome at third. Besides, the Ackley experiment at 2B was going on at that time.
He has been. And would have been even more valuable as a 2B where his offense would have stood out even more.

Moore might be awesome at third also. But why put him there when he can play second?

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Post by bpj » Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:31 am

Sweet Moses, how would it feel as a Brewers fan, thinking your team was going to make a push for the playoffs with Ben Gamel, Ryan Healy, Logan Morrison and Justin Smoak on the roster for a combined -.8 WAR.

:shock:

They poach our guys worse than the Padres and Blue Jays do.

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Re: Sept. 4th ~ 3 day Oakland Covid vacation over. Rangers in town Game Thread

Post by D-train » Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:57 am

bpj wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:06 am
Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:29 pm
bpj wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:00 pm
Putting Moore at 2B is exactly what they should have done for Seager before they saddled him at 3B which demands more offense.

He could have a much higher career WAR as a 2B, imo. Positional scarcity. His bat shines even brighter at 2B in other words.

Same with Moore. Sure, he could play a serviceable 1B, but if he can play 2B, why tf saddle him anywhere else?
Seager has been awesome at third. Besides, the Ackley experiment at 2B was going on at that time.
He has been. And would have been even more valuable as a 2B where his offense would have stood out even more.

Moore might be awesome at third also. But why put him there when he can play second?
Actually the positional adjustment of 2B and 3B is equal. +2.5 Same as CF. Guessing the stronger arm at 3B and the more mobility needed at 2B are a wash. Seager lost nothing in terms of fWar by playing third base.

https://library.fangraphs.com/misc/war/ ... djustment/
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Post by D-train » Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:59 am

Curious what others think about the positional adjustments.

Position Full Season Adjustment
C +12.5
1B -12.5
2B +2.5
SS +7.5
3B +2.5
LF -7.5
CF +2.5
RF -7.5
DH -17.5
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Re: Sept. 4th ~ 3 day Oakland Covid vacation over. Rangers in town Game Thread

Post by D-train » Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:00 am

D-train wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:59 am
Curious what others think about the positional adjustments.

Position Full Season Adjustment
C +12.5
1B -12.5
2B +2.5
SS +7.5
3B +2.5
LF -7.5
CF +2.5
RF -7.5
DH -17.5
Good evening Doug. What do you think of these?
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