No New Wars!

[gil]

At the moment, Trump is the example of what's wrong with our country.

Elected to root out corruption, ends up being blackmailed and/or compromised.

He's the festering wound. But behind the wound is a virus that needs to be eliminated.

Good summary of the difference:

Trump didn't get blackmailed or compromised, it was letting the fox in the chicken house.

SO why was his first term completely different than this one? The problem with people like you is your baseline reaction to everything is OMG TRUMP! You aren't taking anything into consideration like what happened to change that. Regardless of your 'feelings', it seems pretty obvious something happened around the time Kirk was killed - objectively - then suddenly, with his main anti-war advosor pout of the picture, suddenly we are warring for no apparent reason in Iran - except we know iot's for Israel. If he was the fox in the henhouse - then why didn't his first term look like this? Wans't he the fox in the henhouse then?

As usual, nothing you are saying outside of your TDS makes any sense - it doesn't add up. The math is different here and some of us clearly see it - but not you! What's ultimately sad for people like you is you ONLY take sides - instead of looking for the truth.

What changed? That's the question - because something clearly has. The "fox' comment doesn't make any sense when you factor in he already has a strong first term.

Truly hilarious to watch people so blinded with hate they can't be bothered to use any kind of ctitical thinking or honest analysis - it's just OMG ORANGEMAN BAD - while ignoring the fact his first term was really quite good - and I have friends that hate him blindly - just like you - who 100% acknowledge that fact.

SO, since the Dems were the ones that trotted out the worst candidate in history - who failed despite having all the money in the workd and the overwhelming support of the hilariously biased media - it would be accurate to say it was the Dems who 'let the fox in the henhouse" right? That would literally have to be the case - right? They fucked up and put him in. So, are you holding them accountable?

No, of course you aren't. The dems fucking up is somnehow trumps fault too... right? Where is your outrage at the Dems? Washington State sales tax - Trumps fault, right? Washington's highest gas prices in the country - Trump's fault, right?

wash, rinse, repeat.

You say that things changed around the time of Charlie Kirk's murder, but there is another thing that is different about the two Trump terms: In the first term, he had relatively "mainstream" advisors on foreign policy who likely never would have thought that joining Israel in attacking Iran was a good idea. So the idea that Trump was constained by Congress and Democrats isn't the entire story. I think he was pulled back from some things by his cabinet and military advisors (e.g., Tillerson, Mattis, Kelly ,Bolton).

In the second term, we have Pete Hegseth, who only seems to reinforce Trump's ideas. Most importantly, I think, Hegseth seems to think that killing muslims, standing shoulder to shoulder with Israel, is part of God's plan. I don't think we need to look for a storyline of Trump doing Netanyahu's bidding because of blackmail/being compromised. What Trump is doing is completely in line with the ideas of the "Christian Nationalists," 95% of whom support the US/Israel war on Iran.

[bpj]

The problem isn't "Christian Nationalists".

It's Evangelical Christians (dispensationalism) who use the Scofield Bible the Jews had annotated with a bunch of self-serving BS so they think this nationstate founded in 1948 is the "Israel" of the Bible.

Hegseth happens to be one such believer. Trump's administration is full of them, obviously. His echo chamber has become obvious.

https://x.com/i/status/2028976990007476265

https://x.com/i/status/1879198573176230284

[Donn Beach]

"wash, rinse, repeat"... oh, hackneyed a bit much?

[Donn Beach]

What's interesting about the war is its looking like not only did it fail at regime change but it could end up putting Iran in a stronger international position than before trump started it. That is, gate keeper to the strait of Hormuz. The way countries will open it will be by paying tribute to Iran. Just because the war ends doesn't mean gas prices are going down. There was some strategy at work there

Trump told the New York Post on Tuesday that the Strait of Hormuz will “automatically open” after the US military exits the war. “Let the countries that are using the strait, let them go and open it,” Trump told the paper.

[auroraave]

"wash, rinse, repeat"... oh, hackneyed a bit much?

Best part about this - is you refuse to answer a single question - and my questions are legitimate. Funny how someone like you who posts 10,000 times a day - won't answer basic questions that deserve real answers. I guess when you toil all day cutting and pasting other peoples words or swimming in contrarianism and TDS, you really have no ability to actually dialogue with people who think for themselves, whjo can think critically and objectively. No, you need 'your party' to tell you what to think and say... right?

Wash, rinse, repeat.

[Donn Beach]

"wash, rinse, repeat"... oh, hackneyed a bit much?

Best part about this - is you refuse to answer a single question - and my questions are legitimate. Funny how someone like you who posts 10,000 times a day - won't answer basic questions that deserve real answers. I guess when you toil all day cutting and pasting other peoples words or swimming in contrarianism and TDS, you really have no ability to actually dialogue with people who think for themselves, whjo can think critically and objectively. No, you need 'your party' to tell you what to think and say... right?

Wash, rinse, repeat.

Wash, rinse, repeat

[XpertDBA]

What a horribly stupid, reductive view of the totality of US... "IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT HERE LEAVE HER DERRRRR." Imagine pretending everywhere is equal. God you really do have the IQ of a flea Xpert.

Parts of the US are "bad, racist, misogynist, blah, blah, blah" and drag the other parts way down.

I like living in the places I've lived. Seattle is a wonderful area compared to the dust holes Conservatives call a dream. All the bad pub they like to say about liberal cities is fantastic as far as I'm concerned... stay living in fuck hole America while we occupy the beautiful parts that people actually want to live.

I would hate to live in a place where "bad, racist, misogynist, blah, blah, blah" live and I have to hope that a good amount of people toward the middle are smart enough to not let them rule the country through Christian Nationalism, pretending the President has been delivered to us by God, racism, sexism, hate, etc.

If that's true, then why is it that you people by and large are so angry and miserable? Why are you people constantly out on the streets screaming and cursing, and selfishly disrupting the lives of other people who are just minding their own business? Why is it that when there's rioting, more than 95% of the time it's you people? Why is it that you people are constantly talking about being beacons of light yet act like complete self-righteous jerks with no manners or filters at all? You don't see these conservative people who live in so-called fuck holes doing any of that, they're just making a living, raising their families, helping other people and trying to enjoy life. I know a lot of conservative and liberal people and I've seen a BIG difference in how happy and well-adjusted they are.

I mean seriously, it amazes me how MISERABLE you liberals are. No wonder your medicine cabinets won't shut all the way.

I nominate this as post of the month.......

[Seattle or Bust]

What a horribly stupid, reductive view of the totality of US... "IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT HERE LEAVE HER DERRRRR." Imagine pretending everywhere is equal. God you really do have the IQ of a flea Xpert.

Parts of the US are "bad, racist, misogynist, blah, blah, blah" and drag the other parts way down.

I like living in the places I've lived. Seattle is a wonderful area compared to the dust holes Conservatives call a dream. All the bad pub they like to say about liberal cities is fantastic as far as I'm concerned... stay living in fuck hole America while we occupy the beautiful parts that people actually want to live.

I would hate to live in a place where "bad, racist, misogynist, blah, blah, blah" live and I have to hope that a good amount of people toward the middle are smart enough to not let them rule the country through Christian Nationalism, pretending the President has been delivered to us by God, racism, sexism, hate, etc.

If that's true, then why is it that you people by and large are so angry and miserable? Why are you people constantly out on the streets screaming and cursing, and selfishly disrupting the lives of other people who are just minding their own business? Why is it that when there's rioting, more than 95% of the time it's you people? Why is it that you people are constantly talking about being beacons of light yet act like complete self-righteous jerks with no manners or filters at all? You don't see these conservative people who live in so-called fuck holes doing any of that, they're just making a living, raising their families, helping other people and trying to enjoy life. I know a lot of conservative and liberal people and I've seen a BIG difference in how happy and well-adjusted they are.

I mean seriously, it amazes me how MISERABLE you liberals are. No wonder your medicine cabinets won't shut all the way.

What a silly narrative.

All Conservatives do is bitch, cry, and moan about things that don't affect their daily lives. Do you live under a rock? Aurora is friggin obsessed with hating Gavin Newsome and Kamala Harris. To which degree is this boomer-aged man living in Beverly Hills so heavily impacted by them?

Not to mention... Mexicans, Gays, Trans people... Walla Walla was ready with like 10 articles about the teenage monster dominating girl's high school volleyball when "she" is a 5'4 120 LB human. There's an article online about the event titled: "Kill Shot: How Payton McNabb Turned Tragedy into Triumph" where Conservative think tanks tried to make a girl who got hit in the head by an average spike some sort of martyr... parading her around with Trump and putting her on a media tour... there around 20 trans athletes competing in women's sport country wide and it's at the forefront of the Conservative mind b/c when you've got nothing but privilege, you have have to manufacture victimhood.

And the irony here is from what I can tell... that the majority of you still choose to live in these supposed dystopian states. Last I checked, Xpert is in Denver, CO, you're in Pomona, CA, Aurora is in Beverly Hills, CA, Da-Bronx is in NYC, D-Train has moved from Seattle, to Boston, to Los Angeles and then back to Seattle. As I've said 100 times... why don't you follow your own advice?

Move to Arkansas, Alabama, Mississippi if you're all so miserable?

As far as I know the only person who has followed this advice is BPJ who lives in one of the Dakotas if I recall correctly. Good for him... at least he moved to a state where he can live out his twisted view of reality and stop bitching about Oregon.

[DavidGee24]

If that's true, then why is it that you people by and large are so angry and miserable? Why are you people constantly out on the streets screaming and cursing, and selfishly disrupting the lives of other people who are just minding their own business? Why is it that when there's rioting, more than 95% of the time it's you people? Why is it that you people are constantly talking about being beacons of light yet act like complete self-righteous jerks with no manners or filters at all? You don't see these conservative people who live in so-called fuck holes doing any of that, they're just making a living, raising their families, helping other people and trying to enjoy life. I know a lot of conservative and liberal people and I've seen a BIG difference in how happy and well-adjusted they are.

I mean seriously, it amazes me how MISERABLE you liberals are. No wonder your medicine cabinets won't shut all the way.

What a silly narrative.

All Conservatives do is bitch, cry, and moan about things that don't affect their daily lives. Do you live under a rock? Aurora is friggin obsessed with hating Gavin Newsome and Kamala Harris. To which degree is this boomer-aged man living in Beverly Hills so heavily impacted by them?

Not to mention... Mexicans, Gays, Trans people... Walla Walla was ready with like 10 articles about the teenage monster dominating girl's high school volleyball when "she" is a 5'4 120 LB human. There's an article online about the event titled: "Kill Shot: How Payton McNabb Turned Tragedy into Triumph" where Conservative think tanks tried to make a girl who got hit in the head by an average spike some sort of martyr... parading her around with Trump and putting her on a media tour... there around 20 trans athletes competing in women's sport country wide and it's at the forefront of the Conservative mind b/c when you've got nothing but privilege, you have have to manufacture victimhood.

And the irony here is from what I can tell... that the majority of you still choose to live in these supposed dystopian states. Last I checked, Xpert is in Denver, CO, you're in Pomona, CA, Aurora is in Beverly Hills, CA, Da-Bronx is in NYC, D-Train has moved from Seattle, to Boston, to Los Angeles and then back to Seattle. As I've said 100 times... why don't you follow your own advice?

Move to Arkansas, Alabama, Mississippi if you're all so miserable?

As far as I know the only person who has followed this advice is BPJ who lives in one of the Dakotas if I recall correctly. Good for him... at least he moved to a state where he can live out his twisted view of reality and stop bitching about Oregon.

Man, false equivalencies don't get any more falsely equivalent than this. Just throwing something up against the wall hoping it will stick. If all Conservatives do is bitch, cry and moan, then why do we never see them out on the streets carrying signs, yelling and cursing, and throwing shit like you people do? UH UH UH WELL THIS ONE TIME THIS HIGH SCHOOL GIRL UH UH UH and even that was barely a blip, most people aren't even aware that something like that even happened.

Move if we're all so miserable? The entire point here is that we're not miserable, you are.

As far as where I live, I'm about 30-35 miles east of Los Angeles in an area where politics isn't even on the radar. I lived in Orange County for about 25 years and it's about 50/50 there politically, with people co-existing quite well. As far as the others are concerned, it's really not hard to get along with other people whose political beliefs are different than yours...although apparently for you it's impossible.

Oh, and by the way The Big Beautiful Bill continues to get even bigger refunds for my clients. You lost what little legitimacy you had here the time you blurted out without any knowledge UH UH UH THAT ONLY BENEFITS WEALTHY WHITE PEOPLE UH UH UH

[Seattle or Bust]

If that's true, then why is it that you people by and large are so angry and miserable? Why are you people constantly out on the streets screaming and cursing, and selfishly disrupting the lives of other people who are just minding their own business? Why is it that when there's rioting, more than 95% of the time it's you people? Why is it that you people are constantly talking about being beacons of light yet act like complete self-righteous jerks with no manners or filters at all? You don't see these conservative people who live in so-called fuck holes doing any of that, they're just making a living, raising their families, helping other people and trying to enjoy life. I know a lot of conservative and liberal people and I've seen a BIG difference in how happy and well-adjusted they are.

I mean seriously, it amazes me how MISERABLE you liberals are. No wonder your medicine cabinets won't shut all the way.

What a silly narrative.

All Conservatives do is bitch, cry, and moan about things that don't affect their daily lives. Do you live under a rock? Aurora is friggin obsessed with hating Gavin Newsome and Kamala Harris. To which degree is this boomer-aged man living in Beverly Hills so heavily impacted by them?

Not to mention... Mexicans, Gays, Trans people... Walla Walla was ready with like 10 articles about the teenage monster dominating girl's high school volleyball when "she" is a 5'4 120 LB human. There's an article online about the event titled: "Kill Shot: How Payton McNabb Turned Tragedy into Triumph" where Conservative think tanks tried to make a girl who got hit in the head by an average spike some sort of martyr... parading her around with Trump and putting her on a media tour... there around 20 trans athletes competing in women's sport country wide and it's at the forefront of the Conservative mind b/c when you've got nothing but privilege, you have have to manufacture victimhood.

And the irony here is from what I can tell... that the majority of you still choose to live in these supposed dystopian states. Last I checked, Xpert is in Denver, CO, you're in Pomona, CA, Aurora is in Beverly Hills, CA, Da-Bronx is in NYC, D-Train has moved from Seattle, to Boston, to Los Angeles and then back to Seattle. As I've said 100 times... why don't you follow your own advice?

Move to Arkansas, Alabama, Mississippi if you're all so miserable?

As far as I know the only person who has followed this advice is BPJ who lives in one of the Dakotas if I recall correctly. Good for him... at least he moved to a state where he can live out his twisted view of reality and stop bitching about Oregon.

Man, false equivalencies don't get any more falsely equivalent than this. Just throwing something up against the wall hoping it will stick. If all Conservatives do is bitch, cry and moan, then why do we never see them out on the streets carrying signs, yelling and cursing, and throwing shit like you people do? UH UH UH WELL THIS ONE TIME THIS HIGH SCHOOL GIRL UH UH UH and even that was barely a blip, most people aren't even aware that something like that even happened.

Move if we're all so miserable? The entire point here is that we're not miserable, you are.

As far as where I live, I'm about 30-35 miles east of Los Angeles in an area where politics isn't even on the radar. I lived in Orange County for about 25 years and it's about 50/50 there politically, with people co-existing quite well. As far as the others are concerned, it's really not hard to get along with other people whose political beliefs are different than yours...although apparently for you it's impossible.

Oh, and by the way The Big Beautiful Bill continues to enable me to get even bigger refunds for my clients. You lost what little legitimacy you had here the time you blurted out without any knowledge UH UH UH THAT ONLY BENEFITS WEALTHY WHITE PEOPLE UH UH UH

Probably because they know their problems are either insignificant or made up... What are they gonna do? Go picket a high school volleyball game?

Walla Walla is a prime example... some 70 year old man who by all accounts has nothing better to do in retirement than suck at golf and watch Fox News... whose biggest problem is a 5'4 120lb HS trans girl who plays volleyball.

And clearly you weren't in Huntington during the Biden administration where the MAGA crowd was always out protesting about mask mandates and stay at home orders... when they were **checks notes** put forward by Trump in his first term.

Great... then go ahead and tell all the weirdos around you to stop crying and bitching about California. Idk if you've noticed, but it's a pretty common narrative among Conservative circles to pretend that California is the next coming of Communist China. I lived in Orange County for a decade... I loved it there. And last I checked... liberals aren't out there protesting the places they live... they're protesting the Orange retard who is now polling in the upper 20's. Glad the BBB is saving your clients a few dollars on their taxes though???