9/8/19 Seahawks vs. Bungles game thread

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Re: 9/8/19 Seahawks vs. Bungles game thread

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:17 pm

auroraave wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:17 pm
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In my opinion, Schottenheimer and Norton were lousy both in preparation for the game as well as during the game. It looked like the Bevell offense with the numerous 3 and outs and something like 7 yards in the 1st quarter. That shit has to stop. There is no reason this team should be struggling early to move the ball, unless the offensive line is so bad that they simply can't execute plays with one of the better QB/RB/WR combos in the league.

You're skipping a lot of context here. Cinci has a new coaching staff - Seattle has NO TAPE on their new schemes to prepare for. Second, Seattle was running a base defense that is missing several key pieces. Running a base defense is an opposing QB's wet dream - if it's man to man they know where the mismatch will be, if it's zone, they know where the opening will be. That's the downside of running a very base defense. Blitzing and coverage disguises affect that, but they don't do much of that - probably because of the youth in the back end - who may not know their assignments as well. Any good Qb can find the weakness - especially vs a base defense - it's not hard to do. In years past, the defense was SO good, they minimized the gains with tackling and physicality. Now, the defense isn't as good, so they relying on the strength of the defense - the LB unit - to make up for a lot of shortcomings on the back end, and missing pieces up front. There are limitations. CInci has always had a formidable defense, this is nothing new. Seattle offense always stumbles and bumbles out of the gate. this is also nothing new. They are trying to minimize risk on both sides of the ball until they are at full strength by playing conservatively. Blitzing will put added stress on the backend - which is Seattle's glaring weakness. Do you really want to put additional stress where they are most vulnerable? Offensive line? I have no explanation for that shit show.
Those are reasonable points though i'm not sure i would excuse the secondary with the youth card, unless you mean the situation with Amadi trying to fill in for Thorpe in the nickel, and then whoever had to replace him.

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Re: 9/8/19 Seahawks vs. Bungles game thread

Post by D-train » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:34 pm

The thing that kills me is that the O line did play very well last season. They only lost Sweezy who will not be making the HOF. He was replaced by Pocic who also played a lot last season. They had OTAs, Mini Camp, Training Camp and Preseason games to prepare for game one. And they come out and play like absolute dogshit. WTF? How and why does that happen..........every year.
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Re: 9/8/19 Seahawks vs. Bungles game thread

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:38 pm

he was replaced by Iupati wasn't he, I thought PC said Iupati might be ready this week
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Re: 9/8/19 Seahawks vs. Bungles game thread

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:41 pm

PC yesterday
“It’s Mike’s job,” Carroll said during his Wednesday press conference. “We feel Mike has earned that, so he’ll jump back in.”

“Ethan’s done a great job filling in for quite a while now,” Carroll continued. “We’re really confident in him playing there. It’s a boost to us to know we have a guy – a couple guys – that can start.

“I’m really anxious to get Mike back in there, he’s dying to play, so I look forward to that.”

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Re: 9/8/19 Seahawks vs. Bungles game thread

Post by ThePro » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:53 pm

D-train wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:34 pm
The thing that kills me is that the O line did play very well last season. They only lost Sweezy who will not be making the HOF. He was replaced by Pocic who also played a lot last season. They had OTAs, Mini Camp, Training Camp and Preseason games to prepare for game one. And they come out and play like absolute dogshit. WTF? How and why does that happen..........every year.
It had more to do with Bengals personnel than anything. Geno Atkins is a beast. Dunlop can get after it too. He beat the crap outta both Hawks tackles that game.

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Re: 9/8/19 Seahawks vs. Bungles game thread

Post by D-train » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:22 pm

ThePro wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:53 pm
D-train wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:34 pm
The thing that kills me is that the O line did play very well last season. They only lost Sweezy who will not be making the HOF. He was replaced by Pocic who also played a lot last season. They had OTAs, Mini Camp, Training Camp and Preseason games to prepare for game one. And they come out and play like absolute dogshit. WTF? How and why does that happen..........every year.
It had more to do with Bengals personnel than anything. Geno Atkins is a beast. Dunlop can get after it too. He beat the crap outta both Hawks tackles that game.
Both of those guys have played their entire careers with the Bengals. The Bengals gave up the 4th most rushing yards in the NFL with those two last season.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... 18/opp.htm
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Re: 9/8/19 Seahawks vs. Bungles game thread

Post by ThePro » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:58 pm

D-train wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:22 pm


Both of those guys have played their entire careers with the Bengals. The Bengals gave up the 4th most rushing yards in the NFL with those two last season.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... 18/opp.htm
They are still very good. if you're trailing early the other team can run alot more.

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Re: 9/8/19 Seahawks vs. Bungles game thread

Post by Michael K. » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:41 am

D-train wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:34 pm
The thing that kills me is that the O line did play very well last season. They only lost Sweezy who will not be making the HOF. He was replaced by Pocic who also played a lot last season. They had OTAs, Mini Camp, Training Camp and Preseason games to prepare for game one. And they come out and play like absolute dogshit. WTF? How and why does that happen..........every year.
That is why the "it's only week one" argument we hear every single year since 2014 pisses me off. No other team gets more practices or pre-season games, yet for about five years we hear excuses for why we look lost in week 1.

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Re: 9/8/19 Seahawks vs. Bungles game thread

Post by ThePro » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:41 am

Michael K. wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:41 am
D-train wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:34 pm
The thing that kills me is that the O line did play very well last season. They only lost Sweezy who will not be making the HOF. He was replaced by Pocic who also played a lot last season. They had OTAs, Mini Camp, Training Camp and Preseason games to prepare for game one. And they come out and play like absolute dogshit. WTF? How and why does that happen..........every year.
That is why the "it's only week one" argument we hear every single year since 2014 pisses me off. No other team gets more practices or pre-season games, yet for about five years we hear excuses for why we look lost in week 1.
So what is it? if it's not lack practice/playing time together?

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Re: 9/8/19 Seahawks vs. Bungles game thread

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:41 am

I don't think they game plan from an analysis of the opposing team's strengths and weaknesses. It's like they just decide they are going to run this basic offense in the 1st half of every game and play their standard defense throughout all games. Then, they remove the reins from RW in the second half and suddenly they can move the ball. And then, as the season progresses, they develop some kind of rhythm or whatever. I know, that's too simplistic, but what else can someone on the outside conclude?

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