Bringing our Ace home my 3 point offseason plan

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Poll runs till Thu Dec 04, 2025 9:49 pm

1. Improve the club over the 2025 club that broke camp?
3
38%
2. Improve the club over the 2025 club that entered the playoffs?
3
38%
3. Would you approve these moves if you were Stanton/JD?
2
25%
 
Total votes: 8

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Re: Bringing our Ace home my 3 point offseason plan

Post by D-train » Thu Nov 06, 2025 1:42 am

Pharmabro wrote:
Wed Nov 05, 2025 10:58 pm
D-train wrote:
Wed Nov 05, 2025 3:59 pm
Baseball America has Naylor at 6 x $20M
But yet he signed last year for 10.9M for a 1 year and he was coming off a 31 HR season vs barely knocking 20 HR this year and I am not betting on betting on his continued SB. He is a 2 WAR guy who plays well here and is a brain on the game guy who I love but not worth a break the bank deal.
He didn't sign a deal. He was arb 3 not FA. :roll:
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Re: Bringing our Ace home my 3 point offseason plan

Post by Pharmabro » Thu Nov 06, 2025 5:01 am

HawkandMariner88 wrote:
Thu Nov 06, 2025 12:34 am
Pharmabro wrote:
Wed Nov 05, 2025 10:58 pm
D-train wrote:
Wed Nov 05, 2025 3:59 pm
Baseball America has Naylor at 6 x $20M
But yet he signed last year for 10.9M for a 1 year and he was coming off a 31 HR season vs barely knocking 20 HR this year and I am not betting on betting on his continued SB. He is a 2 WAR guy who plays well here and is a brain on the game guy who I love but not worth a break the bank deal.
Lefty bat, smart savvy hitter. Gotta bet on somebody. We have no options at 1b.
Raley was a 130 OPS bat in 2024

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Re: Bringing our Ace home my 3 point offseason plan

Post by Seattle or Bust » Thu Nov 06, 2025 5:55 pm

Pharmabro wrote:
Thu Nov 06, 2025 5:01 am
HawkandMariner88 wrote:
Thu Nov 06, 2025 12:34 am
Pharmabro wrote:
Wed Nov 05, 2025 10:58 pm


But yet he signed last year for 10.9M for a 1 year and he was coming off a 31 HR season vs barely knocking 20 HR this year and I am not betting on betting on his continued SB. He is a 2 WAR guy who plays well here and is a brain on the game guy who I love but not worth a break the bank deal.
Lefty bat, smart savvy hitter. Gotta bet on somebody. We have no options at 1b.
Raley was a 130 OPS bat in 2024
They thought so little of him that they held him off the roster in the ALCS.

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Re: Bringing our Ace home my 3 point offseason plan

Post by Vogelbomb » Thu Nov 06, 2025 7:25 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Thu Nov 06, 2025 5:55 pm
Pharmabro wrote:
Thu Nov 06, 2025 5:01 am
HawkandMariner88 wrote:
Thu Nov 06, 2025 12:34 am


Lefty bat, smart savvy hitter. Gotta bet on somebody. We have no options at 1b.
Raley was a 130 OPS bat in 2024
They thought so little of him that they held him off the roster in the ALCS.
I don't think anyone's trying to argue that Raley looked good in 2025. He has to be a backup plan at 1B if Naylor walks. Personally, I'd rather target Polanco all day long. He was/is the better player, hit .335 w/ RISP. Has more versatility. Isn't searching for as long of term. Feel like I'm taking crazy pills with everyone so obsessed over a fat, lazy 1B and completely ignoring Polanco who just time and again comes thru in the clutch

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Re: Bringing our Ace home my 3 point offseason plan

Post by HawkandMariner88 » Thu Nov 06, 2025 10:39 pm

Vogelbomb wrote:
Thu Nov 06, 2025 7:25 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Thu Nov 06, 2025 5:55 pm
Pharmabro wrote:
Thu Nov 06, 2025 5:01 am


Raley was a 130 OPS bat in 2024
They thought so little of him that they held him off the roster in the ALCS.
I don't think anyone's trying to argue that Raley looked good in 2025. He has to be a backup plan at 1B if Naylor walks. Personally, I'd rather target Polanco all day long. He was/is the better player, hit .335 w/ RISP. Has more versatility. Isn't searching for as long of term. Feel like I'm taking crazy pills with everyone so obsessed over a fat, lazy 1B and completely ignoring Polanco who just time and again comes thru in the clutch
Fat & lazy? How many bases did he swipe. Played good defense. What's your issue with him now. People are thinking we aren't or can't afford him. He's not going to NY. Alonso is staying in Queens guys. Who else is his competition. We need him. Start at 4 yrs/80 million & go from there.

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Re: Bringing our Ace home my 3 point offseason plan

Post by Pharmabro » Sat Nov 08, 2025 11:02 pm

D-train wrote:
Wed Nov 05, 2025 4:08 pm
Pharmabro wrote:
Tue Nov 04, 2025 9:49 pm
I think we need to improve in all 3 phases of the game and here is my dreaming big plan with a dash of reality mixed in.

1st. My plan relies on improving our rotation by adding a legit Ace (Skubal)

2. Adding to at least 1 improvement to the BP to start the year.
I have a bit of a thought that you will see some improvement from the BP with-in:
But you start with Munoz, Brash, Buzzardo, and Speier. That is a solid top 4 but just like Buzzardo improved you could see the step up comes from guys like: Vargas, Emerson Hancock, Kowar, Lego, and a return to health of Gregory Santos.

3. We definitely need to improve the lineup over hate it was over the beginning of the year: last year we had injuries to Raley, Polanco, and Robles. And so you gotta have alternatives should you have a guy or two be unavailable. But My aim is to start out the year as approximately = to out post trade position player stack.

1st go get Seattle U’s own T. Skubal. He is a high Velocity lefty stud that we have not seen the likes of since Randy. He’s valued at 51 Mill on MLBTC So something like Anderson 30M, Miller 11M, Jurangelo 16M is the package for arguments sake. There are plenty of packages that could be made but that is what I would think would be a compelling one.

2nd re-up with Jorge and Josh Nails. Josh has been a 2-WAR player and I think we could get them both on 2-3 years deals at 14 to 19 Mil

3rd: 3rd Base :D :: We could do Donavan, or do Geno, but just to have a different long time target. DC’s CJ Abrams 26M Trade calc: he has averaged about 38 Sb, 19 HR, 3.4 BWAR, 31 doubles 6 triples the last 3 years and in the last 2 he has been a 110 OPS+ guy. My thoughts here are he is the JP replacement, or just a superior range 3B kinda like a Matt Chapman type 3B. He has only played into his age 24 season and we would get 3 years. My headliner would be Farmelo 20M, Tai Pete 6M, Teddy M 2.5, Josh Caron 1.5M and a comp pick or similar value. Maybe you throw in like a comp Rd. Pick probably 3-6M in value just to give them the win. With CJ you get a younger potential super star and a possible JP replacement. For now you improve your range over a guy like Geno, you improve on the bases and you get decent power.

4th. Improve the BP. 1 of 2 ways improve on LHBP which is bettering over Fergy. It would be a lot more pricey to improve from the right handed side which has about 8 guys that can push it 97-98+ and has at least 1 other +, if not ++ pitch or two. FA options include Gregory Santos who has high velocity in his history like 102 FB with a 95 MPH slider but had an injury last year and a velocity dip. There are some other decent guys in FA but he has a 100 ERA+ career but Seattle could be particularly appealing to him since our home park limits walks and hits better than any other park and those appear to be his weakness. He has a K-RATE of 9-11+ /9 and limits HR. I don’t know what a 30 year-old lefty with elite velocity but average results fetches? In the absolute best landing spot for him I say a 1 year 3 M with an 6M dollar club option.
Yeah I am sure the Nats are dying to trade their 2nd best player who just turned 25 yo, is making minimum wage and isn't an FA until 2029. Throwing is a bit of logic would make your plan more credible. lol
He has been an OK player but a 110 OPS+ does not make a super star. That is what we got from JP BTW. I am hoping for a breakout kind off that 25-26 with experience thing. Every trade is an adventure. I like my plan:
* Adding to the top of the rotation and a lefty at that just makes us deadly.
*Double down by adding a lefty that has 102 in his back pocket playing his home games at T-M? He could explode with the confidence building that could happen
* “We’re putting the band back together again” Blues Bros Josh and Polo 1B/2B We will see if things get crazy but I think there is a window there. CJ is a good shot at an upside play former eli8te prospect who is not a good defender so far. Let Perry mold him into a plus range 3B before taking over for JP or staying at 3rd or 2B because Colt proves to be the future at SS.

I don’t really mind critical comments, overpay, pipe dream, no way no how. I have my stuff, at pretty much all plans I have moments where I am like but why? That does not make us better. It’s all good in the hood.

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