The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by D-train » Fri Dec 05, 2025 3:50 pm

Sodo comes up with three Donovan trades. I would do the first two but probably not the 3rd one.

https://sodomojo.com/3-mariners-trade-p ... kbn2e6ng9v
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Passan and Olney on the Winter Meetings, no paywall: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/472 ... eff-passan

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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by Sexymarinersfan » Sat Dec 06, 2025 4:34 am

D-train wrote:
Fri Dec 05, 2025 3:50 pm
Sodo comes up with three Donovan trades. I would do the first two but probably not the 3rd one.

https://sodomojo.com/3-mariners-trade-p ... kbn2e6ng9v
I'd only do the first one. Colt, Farmelo, and Sloan are my only untouchables on the farm for me.

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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by Pharmabro » Sat Dec 06, 2025 11:22 pm

Pharmabro wrote:
Fri Dec 05, 2025 7:41 am
BP with additions:

Cl. Munoz
SU. Matt Brash

LH. Speier, Ferrer
RH. Buzzardo, Hancock, Vargas, Rogers

My assumptions here would be that you are taking a guy that should be better than his traditional stats suggest who has good stuff and you are banking on a bit of a confidence boost by pitching in T mobile increasing his performance to where it should be based on stuff and FIP. And because he is pre-arb he would be an MLB min guy. This allows you to spend pretty big on Tyler Rogers.


Rogers is not a swing and miss guy and to me that limits him in the $ potential And age (opinion). He has been really good though so would a 2 X 9M with an opt out with a 1M buyout work? That was the MLBTR guesstimate.
I am OK with the trade


I am a a little concerned that we are parting a premium price on a Sabre developmental guy for the control years vs a guy like Duran who has a proven record of dominance.

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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by Pharmabro » Sat Dec 06, 2025 11:35 pm

Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Sat Dec 06, 2025 4:34 am
D-train wrote:
Fri Dec 05, 2025 3:50 pm
Sodo comes up with three Donovan trades. I would do the first two but probably not the 3rd one.

https://sodomojo.com/3-mariners-trade-p ... kbn2e6ng9v
I'd only do the first one. Colt, Farmelo, and Sloan are my only untouchables on the farm for me.
I with you. How much is Brandon worth ?

Over the last 3 years he averages less than 2.4 WAR, 12 HR, 13 SB and 9 Caught per year. He is a decent player who is a god defender and is capable of playing multiple positions. He is not a game changer.

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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by Sexymarinersfan » Sat Dec 06, 2025 11:51 pm

Pharmabro wrote:
Sat Dec 06, 2025 11:35 pm
Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Sat Dec 06, 2025 4:34 am
D-train wrote:
Fri Dec 05, 2025 3:50 pm
Sodo comes up with three Donovan trades. I would do the first two but probably not the 3rd one.

https://sodomojo.com/3-mariners-trade-p ... kbn2e6ng9v
I'd only do the first one. Colt, Farmelo, and Sloan are my only untouchables on the farm for me.
I with you. How much is Brandon worth ?

Over the last 3 years he averages less than 2.4 WAR, 12 HR, 13 SB and 9 Caught per year. He is a decent player who is a god defender and is capable of playing multiple positions. He is not a game changer.
Good question, but my guess is probably not cheap, or we'd have him by now. The fact that he could literally fill in defensively just about anywhere on the diamond including his bat is envy-worthy.

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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by GL_Storm » Sun Dec 07, 2025 8:51 am

Randy Johnson takes Marshawn Lynch to the batting cage: https://www.youtube.com/live/WLAj7ULRMB4

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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by desbcoach » Sun Dec 07, 2025 10:54 am

Pharmabro wrote:
Sat Dec 06, 2025 11:22 pm
Pharmabro wrote:
Fri Dec 05, 2025 7:41 am
BP with additions:

Cl. Munoz
SU. Matt Brash

LH. Speier, Ferrer
RH. Buzzardo, Hancock, Vargas, Rogers

My assumptions here would be that you are taking a guy that should be better than his traditional stats suggest who has good stuff and you are banking on a bit of a confidence boost by pitching in T mobile increasing his performance to where it should be based on stuff and FIP. And because he is pre-arb he would be an MLB min guy. This allows you to spend pretty big on Tyler Rogers.


Rogers is not a swing and miss guy and to me that limits him in the $ potential And age (opinion). He has been really good though so would a 2 X 9M with an opt out with a 1M buyout work? That was the MLBTR guesstimate.
I am OK with the trade


I am a a little concerned that we are parting a premium price on a Sabre developmental guy for the control years vs a guy like Duran who has a proven record of dominance.
I don’t see them getting anymore BP guys unless adding to heap, they need one or two with options for those times BP get used a lot.

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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by D-train » Sun Dec 07, 2025 4:42 pm

GL_Storm wrote:
Sun Dec 07, 2025 8:51 am
Randy Johnson takes Marshawn Lynch to the batting cage: https://www.youtube.com/live/WLAj7ULRMB4
That was awesome. Thanks for posting.
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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by Hy Feiber » Sun Dec 07, 2025 5:27 pm

Big_Maple wrote:
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D-train wrote:
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btw I went to the Norman Rockwell Museum in Western MA with my wife and parents. Highly recommend it. Love his work.
Always loved his realism and detail. The one of him painting his own self-portrait is classic.

I remember lots of Rockwell pics in the doctor's and dentist's offices when I was a kid. Is that just me? I have a specific memory of getting a filling when I was a kid and staring at a Rockwell taped to the ceiling.
I have the same memories you have, there is nothing that cries out pure Americana like Rockwell!

Drowned out the sound of the dentist drill.

Boy, do I get wistful for the good old days.

In America.

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