The Captain of all off season plans.

[Donn Beach]

Under no circumstances should the M's trade Jonny Farmelo. Kid has 5-Tool potential player greatness written all over him. All other M's prospects are on the board.

The big question is if he can stay on the field. He's missed a lot of time. It isn't too late for him, but there's a case to be made to trade him in the right deal.

Remember reading an item on the mariners farm system the guy saying farmelo was one untouchable guy because you don't know what you have yet. That's the thing, you cant know what the right deal is

[GL_Storm]

Under no circumstances should the M's trade Jonny Farmelo. Kid has 5-Tool potential player greatness written all over him. All other M's prospects are on the board.

Curious what it is about Farmello that leads you to that conclusion. I realize he is young but a .230 average, a .778 OPS and 2 Stolen Bases in Everett is not exactly screaming 5 tool player to me.

I don't have a problem calling him a potential 5-tool player. That's still the upside. The problem is that he's only logged 350 plate appearances since being drafted.

[Donn Beach]

Under no circumstances should the M's trade Jonny Farmelo. Kid has 5-Tool potential player greatness written all over him. All other M's prospects are on the board.

Curious what it is about Farmello that leads you to that conclusion. I realize he is young but a .230 average, a .778 OPS and 2 Stolen Bases in Everett is not exactly screaming 5 tool player to me.

I don't have a problem calling him a potential 5-tool player. That's still the upside. The problem is that he's only logged 350 plate appearances since being drafted.

Yeah, that was the guy's point. It wasn't that he was a great prospect but that you didn't know yet if he was a great prospect. You shouldn't trade a guy until you have a handle on what you got.

The poster boy for that being the dodgers trading Yordan Alvarez for Josh Fields. Friedman has admitted he really didn't know Alvarez well enough when they traded him. The Astros asked for him and he agreed. Imagine the dodgers with Alvarez

[GL_Storm]

Curious what it is about Farmello that leads you to that conclusion. I realize he is young but a .230 average, a .778 OPS and 2 Stolen Bases in Everett is not exactly screaming 5 tool player to me.

I don't have a problem calling him a potential 5-tool player. That's still the upside. The problem is that he's only logged 350 plate appearances since being drafted.

Yeah, that was the guy's point. It wasn't that he was a great prospect but that you didn't know yet if he was a great prospect. You shouldn't trade a guy until you have a handle on what you got.

The poster boy for that being the dodgers trading Yordan Alvarez for Josh Fields. Friedman has admitted he really didn't know Alvarez well enough when they traded him. The Astros asked for him and he agreed. Imagine the dodgers with Alvarez

I think they've been able to do some evaluation on him. He hasn't played that much, but they know more about him than when he was drafted, and from the rehab process, they have a much better idea of his character and work ethic.

[Donn Beach]

I don't have a problem calling him a potential 5-tool player. That's still the upside. The problem is that he's only logged 350 plate appearances since being drafted.

Yeah, that was the guy's point. It wasn't that he was a great prospect but that you didn't know yet if he was a great prospect. You shouldn't trade a guy until you have a handle on what you got.

The poster boy for that being the dodgers trading Yordan Alvarez for Josh Fields. Friedman has admitted he really didn't know Alvarez well enough when they traded him. The Astros asked for him and he agreed. Imagine the dodgers with Alvarez

I think they've been able to do some evaluation on him. He hasn't played that much, but they know more about him than when he was drafted, and from the rehab process, they have a much better idea of his character and work ethic.

So have you watched his swing?

That was the primary knock on the 6’2, 205 lbs speedster, whose snub from the Team USA ballclub spurred major improvements that have carried him forwards in the pros. The swing’s orientation with his back elbow out at times made for a hack that looked almost as though Farmelo was trying to avoid touching his elbow to his inner hip, and made for a more slash-and-dash projection. His pre-draft performance changed things, and since joining the M’s the swing has been tightened into a short scoop that allows Farmelo to better elevate line drives and utilize his burgeoning power

[GL_Storm]

Yeah, that was the guy's point. It wasn't that he was a great prospect but that you didn't know yet if he was a great prospect. You shouldn't trade a guy until you have a handle on what you got.

The poster boy for that being the dodgers trading Yordan Alvarez for Josh Fields. Friedman has admitted he really didn't know Alvarez well enough when they traded him. The Astros asked for him and he agreed. Imagine the dodgers with Alvarez

I think they've been able to do some evaluation on him. He hasn't played that much, but they know more about him than when he was drafted, and from the rehab process, they have a much better idea of his character and work ethic.

So have you watched his swing?

That was the primary knock on the 6’2, 205 lbs speedster, whose snub from the Team USA ballclub spurred major improvements that have carried him forwards in the pros. The swing’s orientation with his back elbow out at times made for a hack that looked almost as though Farmelo was trying to avoid touching his elbow to his inner hip, and made for a more slash-and-dash projection. His pre-draft performance changed things, and since joining the M’s the swing has been tightened into a short scoop that allows Farmelo to better elevate line drives and utilize his burgeoning power

I haven't watched his new swing. His pre-draft swing I actually criticized on here shortly after he was drafted. There was something about it that looked off to me.

[D-train]

Under no circumstances should the M's trade Jonny Farmelo. Kid has 5-Tool potential player greatness written all over him. All other M's prospects are on the board.

The big question is if he can stay on the field. He's missed a lot of time. It isn't too late for him, but there's a case to be made to trade him in the right deal.

Remember reading an item on the mariners farm system the guy saying farmelo was one untouchable guy because you don't know what you have yet. That's the thing, you cant know what the right deal is

He has missed a lot of time but does have .350 PAs and a .805 OPS. Pretty good. I wouldn't say he is untouchable though. Emerson is rated WAY higher.

[D-train]

Curious what it is about Farmello that leads you to that conclusion. I realize he is young but a .230 average, a .778 OPS and 2 Stolen Bases in Everett is not exactly screaming 5 tool player to me.

I don't have a problem calling him a potential 5-tool player. That's still the upside. The problem is that he's only logged 350 plate appearances since being drafted.

Yeah, that was the guy's point. It wasn't that he was a great prospect but that you didn't know yet if he was a great prospect. You shouldn't trade a guy until you have a handle on what you got.

The poster boy for that being the dodgers trading Yordan Alvarez for Josh Fields. Friedman has admitted he really didn't know Alvarez well enough when they traded him. The Astros asked for him and he agreed. Imagine the dodgers with Alvarez

He could also get injured again and hit .200 for the other half of the season after you trade him. Or he does that for us and his value plummets.

[D-train]

Jerry has traded the right prospects lately. Hasn't got burned yet this decade. Sure got burned a lot in the first few years though with Taylor, Peralta and the other SP who I can't think of. lol

[D-train]

I think they've been able to do some evaluation on him. He hasn't played that much, but they know more about him than when he was drafted, and from the rehab process, they have a much better idea of his character and work ethic.

So have you watched his swing?

That was the primary knock on the 6’2, 205 lbs speedster, whose snub from the Team USA ballclub spurred major improvements that have carried him forwards in the pros. The swing’s orientation with his back elbow out at times made for a hack that looked almost as though Farmelo was trying to avoid touching his elbow to his inner hip, and made for a more slash-and-dash projection. His pre-draft performance changed things, and since joining the M’s the swing has been tightened into a short scoop that allows Farmelo to better elevate line drives and utilize his burgeoning power

I haven't watched his new swing. His pre-draft swing I actually criticized on here shortly after he was drafted. There was something about it that looked off to me.

Yep they didn't even let him play in games for quite some time after he was drafted. He was held back in Kindergarten when all the other kids moved on to first grade. lol