The most wonderful time of the year. MOCK DRAFT SIM THREAD.

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Re: The most wonderful time of the year. MOCK DRAFT SIM THREAD.

Post by Michael K. » Wed Feb 11, 2026 11:51 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Wed Feb 11, 2026 11:04 pm
But yes, the games against the Niners were rough on the offense. Even the 41 point win, they had sub-300 yards of total offense, Darnold only throwing for 124 yards. 26-0 win over the Vikings... Darnold had just 128 yards passing. The SB was marred by stalled drives. NE did not respect our ability to throw a football deep at all... a better passing O beats the Pats by 40. The Rams games were nice, but it was also noted that they were one of the worst defenses in football down the stretch.

Again, disagree. They played the offense they needed to in both 9er games. Looking at yards in the playoff game is dumb. They scored on a kick return and the defense kept giving us short fields. And, for the Love of God, how many people are going to with a straight face continue to bitch about the Vikings game? Fuck dude, that game was over in the first quarter and ended up 26 to fucking ZERO. What logical reason did they have to turn it loose? He had to turn it loose against the Rams, and low and behold? We won both of those games.
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Wed Feb 11, 2026 11:04 pm
Often times, the defense was our best offense... giving us short fields. My point is why not try to evolve the pass game so we're a juggernaut without a weakness? Not that it would happen, but Jefferson more or less requested a trade today... saying he wants to play with a QB he feels comfortable with. :shock:
OK, so Sam should have asked them to move the ball back so he could gain more yards to make you happy? LOL It isn't pretty, it don't score Fantasy Points, but this team played the style of football that they needed to play. And they won a title. When they add to get aggressive? They were capable.

And that Jefferson guy sure seemed pretty comfortable with the guy that was there the year before. Remind me again who that was? :D

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Re: The most wonderful time of the year. MOCK DRAFT SIM THREAD.

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Feb 12, 2026 12:20 am

It makes sense to predict they could move on from Shaheed because they have Horton coming back. I'll buy that, hadn't considered it. It just doesn't in my mind to claim it be because the trade didn't work or he was a disappointment in the passing game. He helped with STs and he helped with their passing. The offense expanded after they got him. The difference is his STs work was more spectacular. Having him on the field altered how defenses played the passing game. They really didn't need to throw him the ball a lot for that to work. That's really no different than if they had used Horton in that role. So again, I'd say it comes down to if getting Horton back is enough.

This is kinda a wacky list but here the trade is ranked as the sixth greatest in season trade to lead to a SB ever. I'm looking it over and I don't think anyone on the list actually gets re-signed. So I don't know, it will be interesting to see what they decide.

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/r ... appearance

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Re: The most wonderful time of the year. MOCK DRAFT SIM THREAD.

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Feb 12, 2026 12:32 am

Rasheed had two TD returns in three seasons with the Saints and three in half a season with the Seahawks, that's crazy. But what might get lost is that it's a team effort based on plays devised by harbaugh. It's based on the importance MM gives STs. Harbaugh has taken the new kickoff rules and schemed the shit out of them.
In the game-opening kickoff return against the 49ers in the division round of the playoffs, Shaheed set the tempo for the game with a 95-yard touchdown return.

It worked to perfection: The Hawks’ return team didn’t even block the outside two defenders on the right side, leaving extra players to cross-block an alley at the point of attack.

It relied on Shaheed to sprint into the alley before the free-running outside coverage men could get to him, in essence, running themselves out of the play.

Russell dropped back and pulled to the right, having a perfect blocking angle, as when he executes a Wham block from the tight end spot.

Brady, you guys didn’t even block two guys, intentionally, right?

“I know, (laughs) crazy, right?”

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Re: The most wonderful time of the year. MOCK DRAFT SIM THREAD.

Post by Seattle or Bust » Thu Feb 12, 2026 1:20 am

Michael K. wrote:
Wed Feb 11, 2026 11:51 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Wed Feb 11, 2026 11:04 pm
But yes, the games against the Niners were rough on the offense. Even the 41 point win, they had sub-300 yards of total offense, Darnold only throwing for 124 yards. 26-0 win over the Vikings... Darnold had just 128 yards passing. The SB was marred by stalled drives. NE did not respect our ability to throw a football deep at all... a better passing O beats the Pats by 40. The Rams games were nice, but it was also noted that they were one of the worst defenses in football down the stretch.

Again, disagree. They played the offense they needed to in both 9er games. Looking at yards in the playoff game is dumb. They scored on a kick return and the defense kept giving us short fields. And, for the Love of God, how many people are going to with a straight face continue to bitch about the Vikings game? Fuck dude, that game was over in the first quarter and ended up 26 to fucking ZERO. What logical reason did they have to turn it loose? He had to turn it loose against the Rams, and low and behold? We won both of those games.
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Wed Feb 11, 2026 11:04 pm
Often times, the defense was our best offense... giving us short fields. My point is why not try to evolve the pass game so we're a juggernaut without a weakness? Not that it would happen, but Jefferson more or less requested a trade today... saying he wants to play with a QB he feels comfortable with. :shock:
OK, so Sam should have asked them to move the ball back so he could gain more yards to make you happy? LOL It isn't pretty, it don't score Fantasy Points, but this team played the style of football that they needed to play. And they won a title. When they add to get aggressive? They were capable.

And that Jefferson guy sure seemed pretty comfortable with the guy that was there the year before. Remind me again who that was? :D
I think they played the offense they needed in those games... but I also think they played the offense they felt they had. I think they realize the limitation of their offense and I don't think that's a good thing. In a year where I'd say there weren't your elite teams like the Chiefs or Pats of the past, the Hawks brand of football was capable of winning a SB. I wouldn't bank on that continuing.

I also think if you asked them, being up 9-0 at the half was playing with fire with the Pats... lets say the score was 17-0 b/c they could have scored a few TD's, that would be preferable to any team and honestly should have been the expectation.

Winning is great. No argument there. I think if they want to build a dynasty, which should be the goal, the offense needs to advance. I don't think Shaheed helps there.
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Re: The most wonderful time of the year. MOCK DRAFT SIM THREAD.

Post by Seattle or Bust » Thu Feb 12, 2026 1:22 am

Nice - one of his 6 receptions in the final 6 games.

I saw a guy who often struggled getting open.

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Post by Donn Beach » Thu Feb 12, 2026 1:27 am

I'm reading this about Quinn and the Commanders and thinking that Kubiaks offensive approach is going to become more of the model, it's a copycat league

The Washington Commanders offense is going to look much different next season.

Head coach Dan Quinn told reporters Tuesday the plan under new offensive coordinator David Blough is to feature quarterback Jayden Daniels under center far more after he largely played out of the shotgun in his first two seasons.

Blough was the assistant quarterbacks coach the past two seasons and was promoted to OC this offseason after Washington parted ways with Kliff Kingsbury.

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Re: The most wonderful time of the year. MOCK DRAFT SIM THREAD.

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Feb 12, 2026 1:36 am

I asked google, number of angles to it.
Inconsistent Targets and Usage: After joining the Seahawks, Shaheed experienced quiet games, including a Super Bowl LIX matchup where he had no catches in the first half despite being on the field.

Role as a "Field Stretcher": Reports indicate that while Shaheed's speed forces safeties to play deep, he has not always been the primary option in the passing game, often acting as a decoy to open lanes for other receivers like Jaxon Smith-Njigba.

Limited Route Tree/Technique Issues: Some analysis suggested he is primarily used as a "go-route" guy and has not always been a consistent separator in intermediate passing situations.

Offensive Line/Quarterback Pressure: Early in his time with Seattle, the offense struggled with quick pressure, limiting the ability to connect with him on deeper routes, thus limiting his opportunities to get open downfield.

System Adjustment: As a mid-season acquisition, he needed time to adjust to a new system in Seattle, which sometimes resulted in inconsistent production and fewer opportunities compared to the Saints' offense.

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Re: The most wonderful time of the year. MOCK DRAFT SIM THREAD.

Post by Seattle or Bust » Thu Feb 12, 2026 1:59 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Feb 12, 2026 1:36 am
I asked google, number of angles to it.
Inconsistent Targets and Usage: After joining the Seahawks, Shaheed experienced quiet games, including a Super Bowl LIX matchup where he had no catches in the first half despite being on the field.

Role as a "Field Stretcher": Reports indicate that while Shaheed's speed forces safeties to play deep, he has not always been the primary option in the passing game, often acting as a decoy to open lanes for other receivers like Jaxon Smith-Njigba.

Limited Route Tree/Technique Issues: Some analysis suggested he is primarily used as a "go-route" guy and has not always been a consistent separator in intermediate passing situations.

Offensive Line/Quarterback Pressure: Early in his time with Seattle, the offense struggled with quick pressure, limiting the ability to connect with him on deeper routes, thus limiting his opportunities to get open downfield.

System Adjustment: As a mid-season acquisition, he needed time to adjust to a new system in Seattle, which sometimes resulted in inconsistent production and fewer opportunities compared to the Saints' offense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0qxDyL8u3I

Seems like a pretty diverse route tree with the Saints. Seems like he was often getting separation as a wideout on a variety of routes.

The Saints were rated the 28th best OL in football. Seattle rated 17th. https://www.profootballnetwork.com/best ... -rankings/

Perhaps it is a system adjustment. Do you then go out and spend a lot of $$ on a wideout who struggled to adapt and find a role in your system?

Me thinks not.

I think the Hawks like to keep things a bit more in front of them on offense. Horton can play your speed role for cheap. I like a guy like Sarratt as more of a dominant possession receiver and red zone weapon given the style of the Hawks offense which I believe is a bit more of a grind it out offense vs an offense built on taking the top off.

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Re: The most wonderful time of the year. MOCK DRAFT SIM THREAD.

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Feb 12, 2026 3:00 am

I think the offense changes, adopts. It was a lot more explosive earlier in the season when darnold was being touted as an MVP candidate. I think defenses adopted, the first Rams game probably being the turning point. But that helped expand the run game and the hawks became more grind it out. I feel like it mirrored the let Rus cook deal a bit but then there they were not able to take advantage and expand the offense accordingly.

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Re: The most wonderful time of the year. MOCK DRAFT SIM THREAD.

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Thu Feb 12, 2026 3:15 am

Surely RS won't command that big of a price tag and i'd rather they didn't have bean-pole Horton return8ng punts and kicks jext year.

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