Mariners minors. Thread for interesting news and stats.

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Post by D-train » Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:52 am

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Think you can be a little too results oriented, he is there to learn how to pitch, not sure era is that relevant. Think it be more about scouting his stuff. I could see where there could be pitchers with better eras that are not considered as as good prospects
.There’s a lot to like about Morales, and his stuff is just part of the equation. He offers a fastball that sits in the low 90s with a good curveball, an emerging slider and changeup that give him a more diverse mix of pitches than he had at East Pennsboro.
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Post by Juliooooo » Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:55 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:50 am
Think you can be a little too results oriented, he is there to learn how to pitch, not sure era is that relevant. Think it be more about scouting his stuff. I could see where there could be pitchers with better eras that are not considered as as good prospects
.There’s a lot to like about Morales, and his stuff is just part of the equation. He offers a fastball that sits in the low 90s with a good curveball, an emerging slider and changeup that give him a more diverse mix of pitches than he had at East Pennsboro.
Yeah, his job is not to get as low of an ERA as possible, is to learn and grow. He needs a big offseason and to gain some Velocity of he wants a chance, but I'm not worried about results from a 19 year old in his first mlb season. Let's revisit him next season.
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Re: Mariners minors. Thread for interesting news and stats.

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:58 am

D-train wrote:
Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:52 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:50 am
Think you can be a little too results oriented, he is there to learn how to pitch, not sure era is that relevant. Think it be more about scouting his stuff. I could see where there could be pitchers with better eras that are not considered as as good prospects
.There’s a lot to like about Morales, and his stuff is just part of the equation. He offers a fastball that sits in the low 90s with a good curveball, an emerging slider and changeup that give him a more diverse mix of pitches than he had at East Pennsboro.
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Re: Mariners minors. Thread for interesting news and stats.

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:03 am

Juliooooo wrote:
Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:55 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:50 am
Think you can be a little too results oriented, he is there to learn how to pitch, not sure era is that relevant. Think it be more about scouting his stuff. I could see where there could be pitchers with better eras that are not considered as as good prospects
.There’s a lot to like about Morales, and his stuff is just part of the equation. He offers a fastball that sits in the low 90s with a good curveball, an emerging slider and changeup that give him a more diverse mix of pitches than he had at East Pennsboro.
Yeah, his job is not to get as low of an ERA as possible, is to learn and grow. He needs a big offseason and to gain some Velocity of he wants a chance, but I'm not worried about results from a 19 year old in his first mlb season. Let's revisit him next season.
From the article sounds like there is a lack consistency. Some of the stuff he has to say is interesting
.“My last start, I got two or three strikeouts where I meant to go up and in and I painted below and away,” Morales said. “The stat line shows three extra strikeouts on the fastball, but they weren’t executed.

“So that’s where I have to be really truthful with myself. ‘OK, you struck out seven, but you can probably scratch those three because, at the next level, you’re not getting those pitches back after missing a spot with two strikes.’”

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Re: Mariners minors. Thread for interesting news and stats.

Post by Sexymarinersfan » Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:50 am

ice99 wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:02 pm
Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:00 pm
ice99 wrote:
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Well he still might not participate.
Thats completely different than, "he's not interested".
Yep, my response was to dt.
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Post by D-train » Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:53 pm

Juliooooo wrote:
Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:55 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:50 am
Think you can be a little too results oriented, he is there to learn how to pitch, not sure era is that relevant. Think it be more about scouting his stuff. I could see where there could be pitchers with better eras that are not considered as as good prospects
.There’s a lot to like about Morales, and his stuff is just part of the equation. He offers a fastball that sits in the low 90s with a good curveball, an emerging slider and changeup that give him a more diverse mix of pitches than he had at East Pennsboro.
Yeah, his job is not to get as low of an ERA as possible, is to learn and grow. He needs a big offseason and to gain some Velocity of he wants a chance, but I'm not worried about results from a 19 year old in his first mlb season. Let's revisit him next season.
Twitter is down so I can't post Churchill's tweet but he basically listed most of the recent draft picks and said they would all be MLB plays. I have no idea what he is learning or working on but how in the F do you look at a 20 year old in LOW A with a 5.47 ERA and a 1.63 WHIP and think he is a lock for the big leagues. He could have a 2.47 ERA and .62 WHIP and still wouldn't be a LOCK for the big leagues. That is the simple point I was making. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Re: Mariners minors. Thread for interesting news and stats.

Post by ice99 » Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:25 pm

Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:50 am
ice99 wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:02 pm
Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:00 pm


Thats completely different than, "he's not interested".
Yep, my response was to dt.
Well it sorted itself out. Glad too see the JRod show entering the Derby. Going to be some fun national recognition.
Well, what I said was true. He *might* not.

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Post by desbcoach » Thu Jul 14, 2022 3:36 pm

Wow Lewis played 4 full inning in the OF Tuesday night. Progress but slow

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Re: Mariners minors. Thread for interesting news and stats.

Post by Juliooooo » Thu Jul 14, 2022 4:29 pm

D-train wrote:
Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:53 pm
Juliooooo wrote:
Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:55 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:50 am
Think you can be a little too results oriented, he is there to learn how to pitch, not sure era is that relevant. Think it be more about scouting his stuff. I could see where there could be pitchers with better eras that are not considered as as good prospects

Yeah, his job is not to get as low of an ERA as possible, is to learn and grow. He needs a big offseason and to gain some Velocity of he wants a chance, but I'm not worried about results from a 19 year old in his first mlb season. Let's revisit him next season.
Twitter is down so I can't post Churchill's tweet but he basically listed most of the recent draft picks and said they would all be MLB plays. I have no idea what he is learning or working on but how in the F do you look at a 20 year old in LOW A with a 5.47 ERA and a 1.63 WHIP and think he is a lock for the big leagues. He could have a 2.47 ERA and .62 WHIP and still wouldn't be a LOCK for the big leagues. That is the simple point I was making. Nothing more, nothing less.
He said he looks like a guy that will be in MLB. Again, don't get too fixated on stats. Let the players development go at the pace it's going at. And again, it will sort itself out with time, so who cares.
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Post by Donn Beach » Thu Jul 14, 2022 5:21 pm

. lol yeah and there is a hot male stripper hidden within my 55 yo 5'11" 235lb body.
That's what I was responding to, you seemed to double down on his not having a chance

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