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Re: Jennings waived Haynes activated

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:13 pm

Jennings sure didn't last long on the waiver wire - snapped up by the Dolphins. Does anyone think that perhaps it would have been better to waive Turner or Brown?

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Re: Jennings waived Haynes activated

Post by D-train » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:20 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:13 pm
Jennings sure didn't last long on the waiver wire - snapped up by the Dolphins. Does anyone think that perhaps it would have been better to waive Turner or Brown?
I like Turner. I would not have minded Brown heading down the road but I guess Jennings did absolutely nothing. I was reading some replies to his good bye tweet and Seattle fans were saying we will miss you! WTF are they going to miss exactly???
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Re: Jennings waived Haynes activated

Post by Michael K. » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:20 pm

57reasons wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:49 pm
that would have been a crystal ball to foresee that Carson would recover so well and turn out so good. now Collier on the other hand, yeah 99% sounds about right. and McDowell 110%.
”A lot of young guys come in and they’re young. They have a young mentality. They’re just kids. It’s OK because they are kids,” Baldwin said. ”But he is a professional, I guess that is the best way I can describe it. He’s a professional. He has shown us nothing short of professionalism since he’s been here. The way he runs the ball, the way he catches the ball, the way he blocks, the way he picks up his assignments, it doesn’t matter what it is, he’s just on top of his game. It’s a beautiful thing to watch, especially for a young kid coming in.”
”He’s the real deal. I’ve been telling you all that since training camp. He is the real deal,” Baldwin said. ”There is an aspect to him mentally that you don’t find in football players. It’s very hard to find that aspect mentally in football players and Chris Carson has it. He’s going to be a phenomenal running back in this league for as long as he wants to be. He can take this as far as he wants to.”

Doug Baldwin, Carson's rookie season.

”I think we can have very high expectations for Chris’ play,” Carroll said. ”He has shown us and now that we have looked at him all through camp and all of that and nothing has changed in his style of approach, his toughness and all of that. Everything he has done has been very, very consistent.”

Pete Carroll, Carson's rookie season.

I guess you all forgot the gushing and glowing Pete did all Summer prior to Carson's rookie year?

https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/chr ... wks-092017

This article took me a matter of minutes to find. But yeah, Carson didn't become the player he is now until AFTER Penny was drafted.

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Re: Jennings waived Haynes activated

Post by D-train » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:41 pm

Yeah I don't get the surprise that Carson was able to come back after the injury. It was a fairly common football injury. He wasn't run over by a bus rendering him in a coma for six months and a quadriplegic for another six months after he came out of the coma.
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Re: Jennings waived Haynes activated

Post by ThePro » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:35 pm

D-train wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:41 pm
Yeah I don't get the surprise that Carson was able to come back after the injury. It was a fairly common football injury. He wasn't run over by a bus rendering him in a coma for six months and a quadriplegic for another six months after he came out of the coma.
That's not true his injury was severe.

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2017/10/1/ ... y-seahawks
The Seahawks have cycled through running backs such as Thomas Rawls, Christine Michael and Eddie Lacy. Chris Carson’s promising rookie season ended early because of a nasty leg/ankle injury
Running back was a need for Seattle even though Carson has a lot of promise. He looked like he could be Seattle’s long-term starter last season before he went down in early October. That’s the issue here: Carson hasn’t proven he can carry the load over an extended time let alone a full season. Neither has Mike Davis. The oft-injured C.J. Prosise
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Re: Jennings waived Haynes activated

Post by Michael K. » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:04 pm

Better draft a TE first in next year's draft. We just lost one for the season.

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Re: Jennings waived Haynes activated

Post by ThePro » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:24 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:04 pm
Better draft a TE first in next year's draft. We just lost one for the season.
They might

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Re: Jennings waived Haynes activated

Post by Michael K. » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:27 pm

ThePro wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:24 pm
Michael K. wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:04 pm
Better draft a TE first in next year's draft. We just lost one for the season.
They might
So, the answer to replacing a sixth round tailback that got hurt was to draft one in the first round, and now the answer to replacing a 4th round TE is to draft one in the 1st round?

You are right, they might, and if they use a first round pick and he sits behind Dissley for two years....it will be a mistake. But at least we will then have the tailback, DE and TE of the future.

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Re: Jennings waived Haynes activated

Post by ThePro » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:35 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:27 pm

So, the answer to replacing a sixth round tailback that got hurt was to draft one in the first round, and now the answer to replacing a 4th round TE is to draft one in the 1st round?

You are right, they might, and if they use a first round pick and he sits behind Dissley for two years....it will be a mistake. But at least we will then have the tailback, DE and TE of the future.
Best player available. If there is a TE rated high on their board when they draft it could happen. TE is a important position in the offense. They could also trade for OJ Howard. Dissly could be injury prone. There is uncertainty just like with Carson.

Your logic makes no sense. RB is a important position in Hawks offense more so than TE or WR. They needed a dependable starter there especially after getting burned by Thomas Rawls and Lacy one season before. Penny was high on their draft board and they took him. Exact thing could happen at TE. They don't go we need to replace a 6th rounder with a 6th rounder. It's a position of importance.

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Re: Jennings waived Haynes activated

Post by Michael K. » Fri Nov 08, 2019 2:49 pm

ThePro wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:35 pm

Best player available. If there is a TE rated high on their board when they draft it could happen. TE is a important position in the offense. They could also trade for OJ Howard. Dissly could be injury prone. There is uncertainty just like with Carson.
At least making that decision after two season ending injuries makes more sense. I like drafting BPA, but not if it makes no sense to what your team needs. I think we would have been getting more out of Will Hernandez than Penny. And, if we were going to draft the best player available with an eye to the future, wasn't that Lamar Jackson? Sacrilegious I know, because Russ is the damn MVP...but at the time we were discussing can you pay your QB and still surround him with talent? I didn't think we'd take Jackson, but when he was there I was curious how much that was discussed.
ThePro wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:35 pm
Your logic makes no sense. RB is a important position in Hawks offense more so than TE or WR. They needed a dependable starter there especially after getting burned by Thomas Rawls and Lacy one season before. Penny was high on their draft board and they took him. Exact thing could happen at TE. They don't go we need to replace a 6th rounder with a 6th rounder. It's a position of importance.
QB is important in this offense too, as is LT and WR. How many first round picks have we used to back up those positions?

First of all, I have said this is all hindsight is twenty twenty...but a team with holes can't draft a guy to be the backup tailback. I get it, that isn't why they drafted him, but doesn't that make it even worse? I can tell you I had great intentions to work hard today, but here I am already typing on a sports forum! They could have had great intentions for the pick, doesn't make it a good one. A GM and President of Football operations are paid to build a team, not make excuses for why failed first round picks actually made sense at the time. Guys that fail get fired, all of them had reasons for why they made the decisions they did. Answers, not excuses. PC and JS aren't making excuses, but there are sure a lot being made for them by fans.

I realize Penny was high on their board, I just don't think he should have been. I have posted from just one single article what this team thought about Chris Carson. I read it ALL SUMMER LONG the year after he was drafted in the last round. I didn't buy it, more smoke being blown by this organization and Mr Sunshine himself Pete Carroll. But Baldwin went on and on about him, Sherman went on and on about him, the coaches did...and then he came out and looked great before getting hurt. So, we give up on the guy that was such a special talent after one injury? We have offensive lineman that miss games all the time...Penny got hurt in a damn walk through, and one injury to Carson scares us into using a first round pick for a guy that could barely get on the field the first half the season? Turns out it was the wrong move....and also appears that Chubb would have been the better option if we felt we had to have another back.

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