Proof that SS is an idiot

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Re: Proof that SS is an idiot

Post by Donn Beach » Thu May 27, 2021 3:30 am

Phishphan91 wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 2:02 am
I'll have to go through this thread to see if anyone mentioned this, but speaking of stupid, did anyone catch when goldsmith quoted servais yesterday in game? apparently servais said since gilbert is a rookie he wants him to call the game to make sure there is conviction in the pitches he throws. when he gets more established he should listen to the catchers game plan. to me, common sense says it should be the exact opposite.
To be successful a pitcher needs total conviction in a pitch to really execute it with authority, interesting SS addressing that

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Re: Proof that SS is an idiot

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Thu May 27, 2021 5:16 am

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This way of thinking, that May games don't mean as much, should be run by Lou. I seem to remember the M's crushed the other teams in the AL West in April and May and then coasted to winning the AL West for the rest of the season. Seems those games in April and May were the deciding factor as Lou's team put the rest of the division in their rear view mirror and never were challenged for the rest of the season. Proving the point that the early games were far more important than those in September.
Well, they were pretty consistent month to month in 2001, so i wouldn't say they coasted after the first couple months. All games matter.

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Re: Proof that SS is an idiot

Post by D-train » Thu May 27, 2021 11:25 am

ddraig wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 2:46 am
D-train wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 4:58 pm
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Wed May 26, 2021 4:49 pm


Isn't that what they did trying to manage Kikuchi's innings in 2019? I'm fine easing him in to the starting role. I would have liked to see another inning last night, but he didn't have his best stuff, and still managed to come out relatively unscathed. Let him come out ahead for the game, and give him another chance next week.
Its actually not even the innings or pitcher workload thing this time that blows my mind. Its that the manager of a MLB baseball team in 2021 thinks that May games are less Important than Aug and Sept games. Would love to see the analytics or science that makes him think that.
This way of thinking, that May games don't mean as much, should be run by Lou. I seem to remember the M's crushed the other teams in the AL West in April and May and then coasted to winning the AL West for the rest of the season. Seems those games in April and May were the deciding factor as Lou's team put the rest of the division in their rear view mirror and never were challenged for the rest of the season. Proving the point that the early games were far more important than those in September.
Yeah its pretty simple. If you don't win in May then Sept. games are meaningless. Put yourself in position to have to make the tough decision as to whether or not to shut the young pitchers down or go for the playoffs. Why give up in May????
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Re: Proof that SS is an idiot

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Thu May 27, 2021 2:17 pm

Making the playoffs isn't good enough. Personally i don't get excited at the prospect of scraping in as the 7th best team and taking an early exit because you don't stand a chance against the quality organizations. You need ace pitchers in the post-season and this team doesn't have any, so by all means they should handle the guys that may become aces in such a way as to set them up for the most success farther down the line.

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Re: Proof that SS is an idiot

Post by D-train » Thu May 27, 2021 2:22 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 2:17 pm
Making the playoffs isn't good enough. Personally i don't get excited at the prospect of scraping in as the 7th best team and taking an early exit because you don't stand a chance against the quality organizations. You need ace pitchers in the post-season and this team doesn't have any, so by all means they should handle the guys that may become aces in such a way as to set them up for the most success farther down the line.
There have been hundreds of Aces in baseball history. If Gilbert becomes one, he will be the first Ace that was handled like a sickly little girl during his first few starts.
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Re: Proof that SS is an idiot

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Thu May 27, 2021 2:43 pm

He threw 78 pitches in those 4 innings. If they pulled him after 50 or less it would be a different matter.

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Re: Proof that SS is an idiot

Post by Captain 97 » Thu May 27, 2021 4:02 pm

Randy Johnson threw 93 pitches in his major league debut and went 9 innings with 130 pitches in his 2nd game. Too bad they broke him.

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Re: Proof that SS is an idiot

Post by Captain 97 » Thu May 27, 2021 4:13 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 2:17 pm
Making the playoffs isn't good enough. Personally i don't get excited at the prospect of scraping in as the 7th best team and taking an early exit because you don't stand a chance against the quality organizations. You need ace pitchers in the post-season and this team doesn't have any, so by all means they should handle the guys that may become aces in such a way as to set them up for the most success farther down the line.
Dude, Its been 20 years I'll take what I can get. scraping in as the 7th team is something you can build on. Plus its baseball. Anything can happen if you get a shot. They beat Bieber the other day while rolling out a bunch of bullpen arms.

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Re: Proof that SS is an idiot

Post by D-train » Thu May 27, 2021 4:20 pm

And btw back to only 5 teams of 15 making it in each league.
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Re: Proof that SS is an idiot

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Thu May 27, 2021 4:22 pm

Captain 97 wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 4:13 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 2:17 pm
Making the playoffs isn't good enough. Personally i don't get excited at the prospect of scraping in as the 7th best team and taking an early exit because you don't stand a chance against the quality organizations. You need ace pitchers in the post-season and this team doesn't have any, so by all means they should handle the guys that may become aces in such a way as to set them up for the most success farther down the line.
Dude, Its been 20 years I'll take what I can get. scraping in as the 7th team is something you can build on. Plus its baseball. Anything can happen if you get a shot. They beat Bieber the other day while rolling out a bunch of bullpen arms.
Sorry, i'd rather have a team that is fun to watch over the six month stretch of a regular season (because they can kick ass) than something that's been thrown together with late trades and after pushing rookies to their limits with the hope that they will get lucky and roll over three or four superior opponents in the play-offs. Fuck that crap.

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