JFK assassination revisited

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

I do agree that Oswald was wrapped up into more nefarious things with either the Mafia or some other organization, but he was still the only shooter. Oliver Stone saying that Lyndon Johnson was driving the whole thing is completely laughable. That entire movie is one big propaganda farce. It's a shame that today's youth actually think his movie is real history, when it actually is a complete piece of crap.

But int's not surprising because todays youth is pretty fucking stupid.... or just susceptible to brainwashing.

And I did edit your post...... you misspelled propaganda.

Thank you. I always get that word wrong.

I wouldn't have noticed, but it did come up on spellcheck.
My spelling is atrocious.

[maoling]

I do agree that Oswald was wrapped up in more nefarious things with either the Mafia or some other organization, but he was still the only shooter. Oliver Stone saying that Lyndon Johnson was driving the whole thing is completely laughable. That entire movie is one big propaganda farce. It's a shame that today's youth actually think his movie is real history, when it actually is a complete piece of crap.

Yup, I don't expect too many people would agree with what I think is, for me, the most plausible explanation. There are a million theories; it's the reason this grim event still fascinates us today. I read the book Mortal Error some years ago, and I had more trouble finding a hole in the forensics and theory than anything else I've read. Here's a YouTube documentary on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5_Fw-ewClc

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

I guess my main questions are:

Was President Kennedy really getting ready to remove us from the Vietnam Conflict?

Did President Johnson really dive us deeper into the Vietnam Conflict?

I never studied this part of history very much, so I ask you both.

[maoling]

I guess my main questions are:

Was President Kennedy really getting ready to remove us from the Vietnam Conflict?

Did President Johnson really dive us deeper into the Vietnam Conflict?

I never studied this part of history very much, so I ask you both.

My answer is yes to both. There is a long-declassified National Security memorandum (NSAM 263) as well as more evidence that JFK wanted out of Vietnam by the end of 1965. And these were advisors and other non-combat personnel. It was only after the Gulf of Tonkin incident in 1964, when LBJ was by then president, that the resolution was passed that paved the way for the first ground troops being sent in 1965. By the end of LBJ's term, in 1968, we had a half-million troops in Vietnam.

And regarding Tonkin, it has always been controversial whether the incident took place either at all, or if was some kind of false flag operation. Regardless, it was the dubious pretext for sending troops, and as some have said, we went to war "on the wings of a lie."

https://whowhatwhy.org/politics/governm ... -evidence/

https://www.historytools.org/stories/th ... in-vietnam

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

Isn't there some theorists that say that LBJ wanted us in the Vietnam conflict because then the US government would be building more ships of war and his family had stocks (or some sort of interest) in the companies that would do this?

It kind of makes LBJ look guilty, doesn't it?

[XpertDBA]

Two things can be true at once.

1) Kennedy wanted out, LBJ wanted in.

2) LBJ had no intention of having the President of the U.S. assassinated.

Anyone who believes that Oliver Stone conspiracy should join the Flat Earth Society.


The leading theory is the incredible animosity between the Mafia and Bobby Kennedy. That's infinitely more likely.

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

Two things can be true at once.

1) Kennedy wanted out, LBJ wanted in.

2) LBJ had no intention of having the President of the U.S. assassinated.

Anyone who believes that Oliver Stone conspiracy should join the Flat Earth Society.


The leading theory is the incredible animosity between the Mafia and Bobby Kennedy. That's infinitely more likely.

I don't know about the Oliver Stone production, but the rumor about LBJ keeping us in Vietnam has been active a lot longer than Oliver Stones movie, and what did Vietnam really do for us? I'd say it made LBJ's family rich among other families.

[XpertDBA]

Still, it's a massive quantum leap to infer that LBJ had Kennedy killed. You have to be on a completely different level of insane to believe that.

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

Still, it's a massive quantum leap to infer that LBJ had Kennedy killed. You have to be on a completely different level of insane to believe that.

Don't judge. We don't know what happened. Personally, I believe that people that have some power and want more are very capable of doing what is needed to gain that power.

Shit man, PB&J actually believes the Nazi's had it right in regards to the Jews. And now he believes that President Trump is a puppet to the people of Israel..... unless you are calling him insane too?

[bpj]

Still, it's a massive quantum leap to infer that LBJ had Kennedy killed. You have to be on a completely different level of insane to believe that.

Don't judge. We don't know what happened. Personally, I believe that people that have some power and want more are very capable of doing what is needed to gain that power.

Shit man, PB&J actually believes the Nazi's had it right in regards to the Jews. And now he believes that President Trump is a puppet to the people of Israel..... unless you are calling him insane too?

I'll let Grok break it down for you, simp.