M's expected to be in on Skubal per Buster Olney

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Post by Donn Beach » Fri Nov 07, 2025 5:14 pm

I think we should just drop the switch pitching angle, its not even a novelty, just forget about it. It's something he wants to work at and they are allowing it. I don't have a problem with that, it's the sort of thing I think you want to have a reputation for, allowing players some freedom to experiment. Remember all the controversy over allowing Ohtani to bat when he was first made available. I don't see where it's hindering his development, he's already been promoted to AA. He could make the ML next season. And that would have nothing to do with switch pitching. If he wanted to try hitting it be less controveral

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Post by GL_Storm » Fri Nov 07, 2025 6:58 pm

I think we'll read in spring training, or maybe just before, that Switchy has decided to stop with the switch pitching thing and focus on developing as a right handed pitcher. It's the right timing for that decision and should be easy for the org to sort of nudge him in that direction.

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Post by D-train » Fri Nov 07, 2025 7:38 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Fri Nov 07, 2025 4:30 am
Pharmabro wrote:
Fri Nov 07, 2025 4:05 am
D-train wrote:
Thu Nov 06, 2025 3:08 am


Miller is only worth $11.0M Kirby is at $57M to that would work straight up.
I want to avoid trading Gilbert or Kirby or Woo. The young arms I would be trading with reluctance would be Miller, Evans, Sloan and I would freely trade Cjenti, or Emerson. But I like Hancock as a swing guy
I read Cenji is closest to the ML
He isn't closer than Evans...Obviously he is closer than Sloan who is a baby and Anderson who has yet to throw a pro pitch.
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Post by D-train » Fri Nov 07, 2025 7:42 pm

Big_Maple wrote:
Fri Nov 07, 2025 4:56 pm
D-train wrote:
Fri Nov 07, 2025 4:02 pm

He has sucked throwing lefty but is lights out throwing RH. Should just scrap the lefty nonsense and develop pitches throwing RH to get LH hitters out.
He's #8 in the M's organization, and #90 overall and is a first round draft pick. But as you all have pointed out, the switch pitching is a novelty more than a selling point. I can't see him being a TOR guy winning a Cy Young because he throws from both sides. I can, however, see his potential as a RHP being something that would be desirable by a lot of teams given his overall resume. So I can see this guy being a big part of a Dipoto offseason blockbuster trade more than him becoming a big part of our rotation moving forward.
Skubal is the only blockbuster trade out there. I would love to be told that there are others????
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Post by Big_Maple » Fri Nov 07, 2025 8:19 pm

D-train wrote:
Fri Nov 07, 2025 7:42 pm
Skubal is the only blockbuster trade out there. I would love to be told that there are others????
Spitballing.

The discussion was around Cjenti, and I speculated that if Dipoto was engineering a trade of some sort that I could see this guy being a part of it. He's pedigreed which would make him a valuable trade chip, that's all.

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Post by HawkandMariner88 » Fri Nov 07, 2025 8:59 pm

D-train wrote:
Fri Nov 07, 2025 7:42 pm
Big_Maple wrote:
Fri Nov 07, 2025 4:56 pm
D-train wrote:
Fri Nov 07, 2025 4:02 pm

He has sucked throwing lefty but is lights out throwing RH. Should just scrap the lefty nonsense and develop pitches throwing RH to get LH hitters out.
He's #8 in the M's organization, and #90 overall and is a first round draft pick. But as you all have pointed out, the switch pitching is a novelty more than a selling point. I can't see him being a TOR guy winning a Cy Young because he throws from both sides. I can, however, see his potential as a RHP being something that would be desirable by a lot of teams given his overall resume. So I can see this guy being a big part of a Dipoto offseason blockbuster trade more than him becoming a big part of our rotation moving forward.
Skubal is the only blockbuster trade out there. I would love to be told that there are others????
There might be we don't know but you might think their not available or we can't afford them or are untouchable. Anyone can be had for the right price.

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Re: M's expected to be in on Skubal per Buster Olney

Post by D-train » Sat Nov 08, 2025 1:22 am

Big_Maple wrote:
Fri Nov 07, 2025 8:19 pm
D-train wrote:
Fri Nov 07, 2025 7:42 pm
Skubal is the only blockbuster trade out there. I would love to be told that there are others????
Spitballing.

The discussion was around Cjenti, and I speculated that if Dipoto was engineering a trade of some sort that I could see this guy being a part of it. He's pedigreed which would make him a valuable trade chip, that's all.
Sure but what other target is out there that would be considered a blockbuster trade? Pretty sure there aren't any. He could definitely be included in a Skubal trade though.
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Re: M's expected to be in on Skubal per Buster Olney

Post by Donn Beach » Sat Nov 08, 2025 1:31 am

D-train wrote:
Fri Nov 07, 2025 7:38 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Fri Nov 07, 2025 4:30 am
Pharmabro wrote:
Fri Nov 07, 2025 4:05 am


I want to avoid trading Gilbert or Kirby or Woo. The young arms I would be trading with reluctance would be Miller, Evans, Sloan and I would freely trade Cjenti, or Emerson. But I like Hancock as a swing guy
I read Cenji is closest to the ML
He isn't closer than Evans...Obviously he is closer than Sloan who is a baby and Anderson who has yet to throw a pro pitch.
It's speculated Anderson could be promoted next season, can't say he's further along but he might be promoted first which would be pretty wild. I don't know if dipoto would do that and hopefully he wouldn't have to.

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Terms of Cijntje, it's interesting how negative everyone is about it. It's intriguing to me that he's actually left handed. I'm left handed and learned to bat right handed. I have never heard it happening with a pitcher, that's crazy. Has there been another one? I'll leave it up to dipoto being worth pursuing or not. Like I said before, I think the advantage would be pretty marginal. Showing a leftie a different look occasionally

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Re: M's expected to be in on Skubal per Buster Olney

Post by D-train » Sat Nov 08, 2025 1:39 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Sat Nov 08, 2025 1:31 am
D-train wrote:
Fri Nov 07, 2025 7:38 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Fri Nov 07, 2025 4:30 am


I read Cenji is closest to the ML
He isn't closer than Evans...Obviously he is closer than Sloan who is a baby and Anderson who has yet to throw a pro pitch.
It's speculated Anderson could be promoted next season, can't say he's further along but he might be promoted first which would be pretty wild. I don't know if dipoto would do that and hopefully he wouldn't have to.

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Terms of Cijntje, it's interesting how negative everyone is about it. It's intriguing to me that he's actually left handed. I'm left handed and learned to bat right handed. I have never heard it happening with a pitcher, that's crazy. Has there been another one? I'll leave it up to dipoto being worth pursuing or not. Like I said before, I think the advantage would be pretty marginal. Showing a leftie a different look occasionally
I bet they slow play Anderson and start him in Everett. He will hopefully pitch well enough to get promoted mid season but he will finish there and make his MLB debut in 2027.
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Re: M's expected to be in on Skubal per Buster Olney

Post by D-train » Sat Nov 08, 2025 1:45 am

Here are the top trade targets. Would any other than Skubal being considered a blockbuster? I don't think so.

Top Offseason MLB Trade Candidates, 3 Landing Spots for Each
Tarik Skubal, SP, Detroit Tigers. ...
MacKenzie Gore, SP, Washington Nationals. ...
Joe Ryan, SP, Minnesota Twins. ...
Steven Kwan, OF, Cleveland Guardians. ...
Freddy Peralta, SP, Milwaukee Brewers. ...
Jarren Duran, OF, Boston Red Sox. ...
Adley Rutschman, C, Baltimore Orioles.

https://sportsnaut.com/mlb/offseason-ml ... spots-2025
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