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I wonder why they haven't extended his contract, he's been THE guy on the O-line that can always be counted on, and do we all remember how hard it was to get a solid LT, and how awful it was without one? Other than his age, there's no reason not to, and seems like they could structure a contract that provides insurance in case his play drops off.
After RW and BWagz, I'd put Brown as the guy that we just couldn't afford to lose.
The thought of him not being happy stresses me out.
Duane Brown unhappy?
Re: Duane Brown unhappy?
By Bob Condotta
Seattle Times staff reporter
RENTON — As the Seahawks conducted their seventh practice of training camp Friday, two of the team’s best and most important players — strong safety Jamal Adams and left tackle Duane Brown — remained where they have been throughout.
On the sidelines, watching.
And as the days pile up that Adams and Brown essentially conduct a “hold in’’ — each present but not stepping onto the field — while they seek new contracts, it’s tempting to wonder if what initially seemed like no big deal is beginning to morph into something more serious.
One sign that maybe it is came in a tweet Friday afternoon from ESPN’s Adam Schefter, who reported that Brown is seeking an extension and “isn’t pleased he hasn’t gotten one, per source.’’
More than the facts of the tweet — it’s been known for months Brown wants a new deal — what may be most noteworthy is the tweet itself, giving off the appearance of someone in Brown’s camp providing a leak aimed at spurring the process along.
The perception, though, is that nothing will happen with Brown’s contract until the Seahawks get something done with Adams.
It was initially taken as a given that the Seahawks would likely reach an agreement with Adams within a few days of the opening of camp, as has been the team’s custom with other big-money deals in recent seasons.
A source said the expectation on both sides was that something would likely get done this week.
Coach Pete Carroll hinted at that when he was asked Monday if Adams might get on the field this week and said “there’s a chance.’’ Carroll also confirmed the two sides have been talking and called the negotiations “amicable.’’
The Seahawks knew from the minute they traded for Adams in July 2020 that they would need to get a deal done with Adams before the 2021 season.
Adams has one year remaining on his rookie contract and is due to make $9.86 million this year as part of an option exercised by the New York Jets in the spring of 2020. Adams, though, had let the Jets know he would like to have an extension sooner than later. The Jets’ unwillingness to negotiate with Adams last summer led to his trade to Seattle.
That the Seahawks gave up two first-round picks for Adams — in 2021 and 2022 — fed the idea that Seattle would basically do whatever it would take to re-sign him. That urgency only seemed to increase when Adams set an NFL record for sacks by a defensive back in 2020 with 9 1/2 and helped lead a revival of the defense in the second half of the season.
But even with quarterback Russell Wilson, the Seahawks took negotiations down to the last minute of Wilson’s self-imposed April 15 deadline in 2019.
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Adams is represented by Universal Sports Management, which also has a history of patience. USM also represents Buffalo cornerback Tre’Davious White, who after lengthy negotiations in the offseason of 2020, signed a deal last Sept. 5, the week before the season began. The deal paid him $70 million over four years, making him the highest-paid corner in the NFL.
White, though, wasn’t staying out of practice, as is the case with Adams.
Carroll last week noted that Adams was still recovering from offseason surgery on his shoulder and both hands and likely wouldn’t be doing much early in camp anyway.
But Adams also sat out the offseason program, meaning he hasn’t taken part in anything on the field with the Seahawks since the end of the 2020 season. And no matter how Carroll portrays it, the Seahawks would undoubtedly like to get Adams back on the field sooner than later. Seattle holds its mock game Sunday at Lumen Field — which at this point Adams would seem certain not to participate in even if a deal gets done — and then plays preseason games each of the following three Saturdays.
What could be the hang-up with Adams?
The Seahawks almost certainly want to sign him to a four-year extension, which is their standard for second contracts, keeping Adams with the team through the 2025 season when he would turn 30.
Adams undoubtedly wants a per-year average that would surpass that of the highest-paid safety in the NFL — $15.25 million of Denver’s Justin Simmons — while Seattle undoubtedly wants to keep Adams below the $18 million a year of linebacker Bobby Wagner, the team’s highest-paid defender. So, the two sides are likely working on finding a middle ground in the $17 to $17.5 million range.
Adams has not been made available to the media but he’s been visible at every practice, usually walking out of the team’s facility early and standing on the sidelines to watch. Carroll said Adams is taking part in “everything’’ else.
It’s hard to imagine something won’t get done. Adams’ injuries the past year have surely only reinforced to him the value in getting life-changing money now. And Seattle doesn’t want things to get haywire with a player it has envisioned as a foundational piece for years to come.
But with each day that passes, the situation grows a little more curious.
The Seahawks are thought likely to turn their attention to Brown once things get wrapped up with Adams. Brown has one year left on his deal at $10 million. He turns 36 on Aug. 30 and won’t command a long-term deal like Adams. But it’s thought he’d at least like a raise for this season, if not also at least a year or so added to avoid this being a season played with the specter of heading into free agency.
But if it might seem a no-brainer to want to keep Brown happy after the way he has solidified the left tackle spot since he arrived in 2017, Carroll’s comments last week about Brown raised some eyebrows.
Asked if the team was in talks with Brown, Carroll said only “I’m not talking to you about that,’’ which was in contrast to his candidness about the team negotiating with Adams. Some have wondered why the team wouldn’t want to say it is negotiating with Brown as well.
Carroll then noted Brown’s veteran status and that he doesn’t necessarily need the physical taxing of camp practices right now anyway.
But with the team implementing a new offense, the team likely wants Brown to get back on the field before too long.
Neither Brown nor Adams has been made available to the media.
On Friday, that left Adams’ good friend and teammate, Quandre Diggs, to offer something of a statement in his place.
As the two walked off the field and past the assembled media, Diggs noticed cameras clicking, smiled and said, “I see you all got the Adams watch. He’s all right.”
The next few days could go a long way to proving if that really is the case.
Seattle Times staff reporter
RENTON — As the Seahawks conducted their seventh practice of training camp Friday, two of the team’s best and most important players — strong safety Jamal Adams and left tackle Duane Brown — remained where they have been throughout.
On the sidelines, watching.
And as the days pile up that Adams and Brown essentially conduct a “hold in’’ — each present but not stepping onto the field — while they seek new contracts, it’s tempting to wonder if what initially seemed like no big deal is beginning to morph into something more serious.
One sign that maybe it is came in a tweet Friday afternoon from ESPN’s Adam Schefter, who reported that Brown is seeking an extension and “isn’t pleased he hasn’t gotten one, per source.’’
More than the facts of the tweet — it’s been known for months Brown wants a new deal — what may be most noteworthy is the tweet itself, giving off the appearance of someone in Brown’s camp providing a leak aimed at spurring the process along.
The perception, though, is that nothing will happen with Brown’s contract until the Seahawks get something done with Adams.
It was initially taken as a given that the Seahawks would likely reach an agreement with Adams within a few days of the opening of camp, as has been the team’s custom with other big-money deals in recent seasons.
A source said the expectation on both sides was that something would likely get done this week.
Coach Pete Carroll hinted at that when he was asked Monday if Adams might get on the field this week and said “there’s a chance.’’ Carroll also confirmed the two sides have been talking and called the negotiations “amicable.’’
The Seahawks knew from the minute they traded for Adams in July 2020 that they would need to get a deal done with Adams before the 2021 season.
Adams has one year remaining on his rookie contract and is due to make $9.86 million this year as part of an option exercised by the New York Jets in the spring of 2020. Adams, though, had let the Jets know he would like to have an extension sooner than later. The Jets’ unwillingness to negotiate with Adams last summer led to his trade to Seattle.
That the Seahawks gave up two first-round picks for Adams — in 2021 and 2022 — fed the idea that Seattle would basically do whatever it would take to re-sign him. That urgency only seemed to increase when Adams set an NFL record for sacks by a defensive back in 2020 with 9 1/2 and helped lead a revival of the defense in the second half of the season.
But even with quarterback Russell Wilson, the Seahawks took negotiations down to the last minute of Wilson’s self-imposed April 15 deadline in 2019.
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Adams is represented by Universal Sports Management, which also has a history of patience. USM also represents Buffalo cornerback Tre’Davious White, who after lengthy negotiations in the offseason of 2020, signed a deal last Sept. 5, the week before the season began. The deal paid him $70 million over four years, making him the highest-paid corner in the NFL.
White, though, wasn’t staying out of practice, as is the case with Adams.
Carroll last week noted that Adams was still recovering from offseason surgery on his shoulder and both hands and likely wouldn’t be doing much early in camp anyway.
But Adams also sat out the offseason program, meaning he hasn’t taken part in anything on the field with the Seahawks since the end of the 2020 season. And no matter how Carroll portrays it, the Seahawks would undoubtedly like to get Adams back on the field sooner than later. Seattle holds its mock game Sunday at Lumen Field — which at this point Adams would seem certain not to participate in even if a deal gets done — and then plays preseason games each of the following three Saturdays.
What could be the hang-up with Adams?
The Seahawks almost certainly want to sign him to a four-year extension, which is their standard for second contracts, keeping Adams with the team through the 2025 season when he would turn 30.
Adams undoubtedly wants a per-year average that would surpass that of the highest-paid safety in the NFL — $15.25 million of Denver’s Justin Simmons — while Seattle undoubtedly wants to keep Adams below the $18 million a year of linebacker Bobby Wagner, the team’s highest-paid defender. So, the two sides are likely working on finding a middle ground in the $17 to $17.5 million range.
Adams has not been made available to the media but he’s been visible at every practice, usually walking out of the team’s facility early and standing on the sidelines to watch. Carroll said Adams is taking part in “everything’’ else.
It’s hard to imagine something won’t get done. Adams’ injuries the past year have surely only reinforced to him the value in getting life-changing money now. And Seattle doesn’t want things to get haywire with a player it has envisioned as a foundational piece for years to come.
But with each day that passes, the situation grows a little more curious.
The Seahawks are thought likely to turn their attention to Brown once things get wrapped up with Adams. Brown has one year left on his deal at $10 million. He turns 36 on Aug. 30 and won’t command a long-term deal like Adams. But it’s thought he’d at least like a raise for this season, if not also at least a year or so added to avoid this being a season played with the specter of heading into free agency.
But if it might seem a no-brainer to want to keep Brown happy after the way he has solidified the left tackle spot since he arrived in 2017, Carroll’s comments last week about Brown raised some eyebrows.
Asked if the team was in talks with Brown, Carroll said only “I’m not talking to you about that,’’ which was in contrast to his candidness about the team negotiating with Adams. Some have wondered why the team wouldn’t want to say it is negotiating with Brown as well.
Carroll then noted Brown’s veteran status and that he doesn’t necessarily need the physical taxing of camp practices right now anyway.
But with the team implementing a new offense, the team likely wants Brown to get back on the field before too long.
Neither Brown nor Adams has been made available to the media.
On Friday, that left Adams’ good friend and teammate, Quandre Diggs, to offer something of a statement in his place.
As the two walked off the field and past the assembled media, Diggs noticed cameras clicking, smiled and said, “I see you all got the Adams watch. He’s all right.”
The next few days could go a long way to proving if that really is the case.
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Sibelius Hindemith
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Re: Duane Brown unhappy?
Two 1sts, a third, MacDougald, and ~$70 mil. He'd better be all-world the next 4 years.
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Donn Beach
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Re: Duane Brown unhappy?
The perception, though, is that nothing will happen with Brown’s contract until the Seahawks get something done with Adams.
Ah yes Jamal Adams, the gift that just keeps on giving.
Ah yes Jamal Adams, the gift that just keeps on giving.
20 years! Soon to be 21 and still counting. The laughingstock of North American pro sports.
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Nwadventure
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Re: Duane Brown unhappy?
Giving away so much for Adams and NOT having a legit agreement for the extension- Holy F-
Re: Duane Brown unhappy?
I agree. don't break on each tackle and actually cover. For that amount he better be a shutdown safety and get sacks.Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:04 pmTwo 1sts, a third, MacDougald, and ~$70 mil. He'd better be all-world the next 4 years.
Re: Duane Brown unhappy?
Heck, Brown played in more games last year than Adams. Young guy was hurt and the old man stayed somewhat healthy.
Really got to have both for success this year.
Really got to have both for success this year.
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Sibelius Hindemith
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Re: Duane Brown unhappy?
Brown is serving as additional leverage for Adams to get his demands met.
I'd say fuck it at this point and take care of Brown. They need him more than Adams to start the season. If Adams wants to be an obstinate bitch let him hold out and lose money, then when he shows up blitz him 15 times a game until he breaks something then cut his ass.
I'd say fuck it at this point and take care of Brown. They need him more than Adams to start the season. If Adams wants to be an obstinate bitch let him hold out and lose money, then when he shows up blitz him 15 times a game until he breaks something then cut his ass.
Re: Duane Brown unhappy?
Yeah, if I have multiple tasks that need to get done, I usually knock easier quicker ones so there are less people waiting on me. Seems they are doing it backwards.Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:23 amBrown is serving as additional leverage for Adams to get his demands met.
I'd say fuck it at this point and take care of Brown. They need him more than Adams to start the season. If Adams wants to be an obstinate bitch let him hold out and lose money, then when he shows up blitz him 15 times a game until he breaks something then cut his ass.
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