SS on JK

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Re: SS on JK

Post by IStillLoveTheMs » Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:35 pm

bpj wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:16 pm
IStillLoveTheMs wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:11 pm
AT Fresno wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:31 pm
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Haven't seen two great prospects yet.... White isn't one, Kelenic isn't one. France may be a good one, Trammell may be good. Crawford may turn out to be good. Maybe Raleigh will be good and JRod may be good or great.Maybe Kirby or Hancock or Gilbert will be good or great. Maybe Marte or Williamson or Querecuto will be great. When we see we have two great prospects playing for the M's... let's stop and build around them... In the meantime, better get some more ....
Kelenic isn't a good prospect?

Huh :shock:
Still have Crawford as a "bust"?
Crawford is a .333 career hitter in June. I'll take the bust title off him when he proves he can sustain this effort and not end up at a .680 OPS when the season is done.

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Re: SS on JK

Post by Captain 97 » Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:41 pm

Even at his best like he is right now, Crawford is pretty much a middle of the road MLB shortstop. He is currently 13th in fWAR and 15th in OPS.

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Re: SS on JK

Post by AT Funchal-Madeira » Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:42 pm

I intimated that Kelenic wasn't a great prospect. I guess that requires reading comprehension. The point was that we couldn't consider prospects great until they produced at the major league level.

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Re: SS on JK

Post by bpj » Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:53 pm

Captain 97 wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:41 pm
Even at his best like he is right now, Crawford is pretty much a middle of the road MLB shortstop. He is currently 13th in fWAR and 15th in OPS.
At his age I'd hesitate to say "he's at his best".
Plenty of time/room to fill out and improve.

Least of our problems, but still a potential problem.

Already an average SS.

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Re: SS on JK

Post by Captain 97 » Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:33 pm

bpj wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:53 pm
Captain 97 wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:41 pm
Even at his best like he is right now, Crawford is pretty much a middle of the road MLB shortstop. He is currently 13th in fWAR and 15th in OPS.
At his age I'd hesitate to say "he's at his best".
Plenty of time/room to fill out and improve.

Least of our problems, but still a potential problem.

Already an average SS.
He's 26 and half. That's not that young. The average player achieves their peak WAR at age 27. Four of the Shortstops ahead of him in fWAR are 26 or younger. 1 is 27 and another 4 are 28. So of the guys that are in his general age group he is 10th in fWAR.

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Re: SS on JK

Post by bpj » Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:27 pm

Captain 97 wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:33 pm
bpj wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:53 pm
Captain 97 wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:41 pm
Even at his best like he is right now, Crawford is pretty much a middle of the road MLB shortstop. He is currently 13th in fWAR and 15th in OPS.
At his age I'd hesitate to say "he's at his best".
Plenty of time/room to fill out and improve.

Least of our problems, but still a potential problem.

Already an average SS.
He's 26 and half. That's not that young. The average player achieves their peak WAR at age 27. Four of the Shortstops ahead of him in fWAR are 26 or younger. 1 is 27 and another 4 are 28. So of the guys that are in his general age group he is 10th in fWAR.
Nobody said it was young.

He has room to improve and is already average before he hits his prime. That's what I said.

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Re: SS on JK

Post by bpj » Thu May 12, 2022 8:19 pm

IStillLoveTheMs wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:11 pm
AT Fresno wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:31 pm
Michael K. wrote:
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So, we wll build around two guys that are great prospects, and between the 2 of them have four months in the league with three of them being below average ro dogshit?
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Haven't seen two great prospects yet.... White isn't one, Kelenic isn't one. France may be a good one, Trammell may be good. Crawford may turn out to be good. Maybe Raleigh will be good and JRod may be good or great.Maybe Kirby or Hancock or Gilbert will be good or great. Maybe Marte or Williamson or Querecuto will be great. When we see we have two great prospects playing for the M's... let's stop and build around them... In the meantime, better get some more ....
Kelenic isn't a good prospect?

Huh :shock:
:idea:

Fun thread.

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Re: SS on JK

Post by Donn Beach » Fri May 13, 2022 2:56 am

JP is essentially on the same timeline as Mitch Haniger

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Re: SS on JK

Post by Jack Merridew » Fri May 13, 2022 4:35 am

bpj wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 8:19 pm
IStillLoveTheMs wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:11 pm
AT Fresno wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:31 pm
,

Haven't seen two great prospects yet.... White isn't one, Kelenic isn't one. France may be a good one, Trammell may be good. Crawford may turn out to be good. Maybe Raleigh will be good and JRod may be good or great.Maybe Kirby or Hancock or Gilbert will be good or great. Maybe Marte or Williamson or Querecuto will be great. When we see we have two great prospects playing for the M's... let's stop and build around them... In the meantime, better get some more ....
Kelenic isn't a good prospect?

Huh :shock:
:idea:

Fun thread.
What's gotcha all hot'n bothered toots?

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Re: SS on JK

Post by bpj » Fri May 13, 2022 5:23 am

Jack Merridew wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 4:35 am
bpj wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 8:19 pm
IStillLoveTheMs wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:11 pm


Kelenic isn't a good prospect?

Huh :shock:
:idea:

Fun thread.
What's gotcha all hot'n bothered toots?

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It's almost a year after this original post and they're still doing the exact same thing with Kelenic- just give him some time! Lol.

Dipoto talking about how his defense, baserunning and attitude are all redeeming qualities, meanwhile the kid is still just as bad as ever.

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