So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason

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Re: So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason

Post by D-train » Sun Feb 02, 2025 1:08 am

DavidGee24 wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2025 9:05 pm
I guess the organization is once again relying on "bounce backs" for older players.

Polanco is the best candidate for it, but what really is the ceiling that he can bounce back to? .250 with 20 dingers? We'd take that.

Garver? Has never hit at T-Mobile so it'll likely be more of the same as 2024.

Haniger? Two bad years in a row and he's broken down by a career full of injuries. He's done.
The we have JP who was horrid last season after a career year in his prime. Randy with a down year right when guys are starting to implode vs. this insane pitching.

Remember the show Logan's Run, David? Everyone died or was killed once they hit 30 yo.
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Post by Hasslecracked » Sun Feb 02, 2025 1:58 am

Vogelbomb wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:27 pm
DavidGee24 wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2025 7:06 am
Vogelbomb wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:31 am
Polanco is also a switch hitter and a guy that works well with Edgar.
He was horrible after they hired Edgar. Where in the holy hell do you come up with this stuff? There must be a Fort Knox of empty beer cans around your computer station.
He literally said so. They both did. It's not just about the results, its about the work, the plate appearances. He reduced his K rate, upped his walk rate. He continued to be unlucky with babip, but also a small sample size of 90 odd PAs. He was also really banged up with that knee by Sept.

Polanco will rebound and so will Mitch Garver. I really hope we see Arozarena bust out like he's capable of as he nears FA
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Post by GL_Storm » Sun Feb 02, 2025 5:31 am

D-train wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2025 1:08 am
DavidGee24 wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2025 9:05 pm
I guess the organization is once again relying on "bounce backs" for older players.

Polanco is the best candidate for it, but what really is the ceiling that he can bounce back to? .250 with 20 dingers? We'd take that.

Garver? Has never hit at T-Mobile so it'll likely be more of the same as 2024.

Haniger? Two bad years in a row and he's broken down by a career full of injuries. He's done.
The we have JP who was horrid last season after a career year in his prime. Randy with a down year right when guys are starting to implode vs. this insane pitching.

Remember the show Logan's Run, David? Everyone died or was killed once they hit 30 yo.
It's gonna be a great year!

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Post by Pharmabro » Sun Feb 02, 2025 9:26 am

19 days until game 1.

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Post by Donn Beach » Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:23 am

Pharmabro wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2025 9:26 am
19 days until game 1.
BTW I think you owe Ryan Divish an apology

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Post by Donn Beach » Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:08 pm


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Jorge Polanco came to the Winter Meetings and met with at least the Astros and Jays. He’s working out in Dallas and completely healthy for the first time in a few years

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Post by harmony » Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:12 pm

Pharmabro wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:33 am
I support the Polanco move. I am drinking the Kool-Aid that the injury affected his batting, and he is said to be healthy now. He didn't tank the same way that guys like Wong, AJ, etc did. He had a 93 OPS+ and still had 16 bombs. The 3 years before he came here, he was a 120 OPS+ guy and on one year he had 33 HR, 35 doubles, and 2 triples. He had 4.9 WAR, 98 RBI, and 97 runs. But 4 years ago he had an 82 OPS+.

I think Jorge has an up year with the bat.
Many fans are prone to recency bias, especially when the most recent season was the player's only season with the fan's favorite team.

FanGraphs projects Jorge Polanco with 1.9 WAR and a wRC+ of 103 in 126 games after Polanco last year posted 0.3 fWAR and a wRC+ of 92 in 118 games:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/jorge ... tion=2B/SS

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Post by D-train » Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:40 pm

harmony wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:12 pm
Pharmabro wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:33 am
I support the Polanco move. I am drinking the Kool-Aid that the injury affected his batting, and he is said to be healthy now. He didn't tank the same way that guys like Wong, AJ, etc did. He had a 93 OPS+ and still had 16 bombs. The 3 years before he came here, he was a 120 OPS+ guy and on one year he had 33 HR, 35 doubles, and 2 triples. He had 4.9 WAR, 98 RBI, and 97 runs. But 4 years ago he had an 82 OPS+.

I think Jorge has an up year with the bat.
Many fans are prone to recency bias, especially when the most recent season was the player's only season with the fan's favorite team.

FanGraphs projects Jorge Polanco with 1.9 WAR and a wRC+ of 103 in 126 games after Polanco last year posted 0.3 fWAR and a wRC+ of 92 in 118 games:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/jorge ... tion=2B/SS
What did they project for him for 2024?
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Post by Seattle or Bust » Mon Feb 03, 2025 12:09 am

harmony wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:12 pm
Pharmabro wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:33 am
I support the Polanco move. I am drinking the Kool-Aid that the injury affected his batting, and he is said to be healthy now. He didn't tank the same way that guys like Wong, AJ, etc did. He had a 93 OPS+ and still had 16 bombs. The 3 years before he came here, he was a 120 OPS+ guy and on one year he had 33 HR, 35 doubles, and 2 triples. He had 4.9 WAR, 98 RBI, and 97 runs. But 4 years ago he had an 82 OPS+.

I think Jorge has an up year with the bat.
Many fans are prone to recency bias, especially when the most recent season was the player's only season with the fan's favorite team.

FanGraphs projects Jorge Polanco with 1.9 WAR and a wRC+ of 103 in 126 games after Polanco last year posted 0.3 fWAR and a wRC+ of 92 in 118 games:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/jorge ... tion=2B/SS
Is it recency bias or was Polanco's '24 a sign of his fall off?

Kolten Wong and AJ Pollock never recovered post their M's career nuke job.

If Polanco plays like shit will you come back and speak to how Fangraphs projections are stupid and not the gospel you pretend them to be?

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Post by D-train » Mon Feb 03, 2025 12:19 am

This 39 second vid is more interesting than our entire off season. lol
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