The Captain of all off season plans.
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HawkandMariner88
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Re: The Captain of all off season plans.
Where would Duran play LF or RF?
Re: The Captain of all off season plans.
Well, trade 1 sucks because Duran is hitting in a hitters paradise and only hits .150/.209/.300 in T-mobile. You are giving up a top notch pitcher for a mediocre outfielder.Captain 97 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:08 pmI can only assume my off season plan is getting less responses because nobody can find anything to disagree with right?![]()
Trade 2 Fairbanks is a Free agent so that trade is a no go. Plus TB has new ownership so the same rules may not apply to what you trade them.
Trade 3. The Cardinals want pitching pitching and more pitching in any trade for Donovan so that blows up that trade... but Donovan is the right guy to go after.
Coulombe is 36 and a 5+ERA for Texas after the trading deadline. He had a great pre all star break but a horrible post all star and you want to give him $18 million??? The only way the M's are doing signing Coulombe is after they sign Kyle Tucker, and trade for Paul Skenes.
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And that's based on how many T-Mobile at bats for Duran? Using stadium splits is really a pretty antiquated method of evalustion. Teams these days are running programs that will project an entire season of a player at bats in any stadium. What we have to work with is really pretty limited. I really don't think much of splits to begin with.Bil522 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 14, 2025 5:04 amWell, trade 1 sucks because Duran is hitting in a hitters paradise and only hits .150/.209/.300 in T-mobile. You are giving up a top notch pitcher for a mediocre outfielder.Captain 97 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:08 pmI can only assume my off season plan is getting less responses because nobody can find anything to disagree with right?![]()
Trade 2 Fairbanks is a Free agent so that trade is a no go. Plus TB has new ownership so the same rules may not apply to what you trade them.
Trade 3. The Cardinals want pitching pitching and more pitching in any trade for Donovan so that blows up that trade... but Donovan is the right guy to go after.
Coulombe is 36 and a 5+ERA for Texas after the trading deadline. He had a great pre all star break but a horrible post all star and you want to give him $18 million??? The only way the M's are doing signing Coulombe is after they sign Kyle Tucker, and trade for Paul Skenes.
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I think you're overpaying for Duran. I'm not opposed to trading Kirby though, and halfway expect them to do it.
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Yes it is an antiquated method that maybe should have been used for Mitch Garver and Geno's return visit. It is ironic that the same antiquated method that was used for this for the most part, makes pitchers that pitch in T-Mobile better than they are.Donn Beach wrote: ↑Fri Nov 14, 2025 6:08 amAnd that's based on how many T-Mobile at bats for Duran? Using stadium splits is really a pretty antiquated method of evalustion. Teams these days are running programs that will project an entire season of a player at bats in any stadium. What we have to work with is really pretty limited. I really don't think much of splits to begin with.Bil522 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 14, 2025 5:04 amWell, trade 1 sucks because Duran is hitting in a hitters paradise and only hits .150/.209/.300 in T-mobile. You are giving up a top notch pitcher for a mediocre outfielder.Captain 97 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:08 pmI can only assume my off season plan is getting less responses because nobody can find anything to disagree with right?![]()
Trade 2 Fairbanks is a Free agent so that trade is a no go. Plus TB has new ownership so the same rules may not apply to what you trade them.
Trade 3. The Cardinals want pitching pitching and more pitching in any trade for Donovan so that blows up that trade... but Donovan is the right guy to go after.
Coulombe is 36 and a 5+ERA for Texas after the trading deadline. He had a great pre all star break but a horrible post all star and you want to give him $18 million??? The only way the M's are doing signing Coulombe is after they sign Kyle Tucker, and trade for Paul Skenes.
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I was speaking to sample size, actually playing for a team for multiple seasons is a pretty large sample size for a split, that's the sort of sample size a team would try and create with their programs these days, that's what you want . Thirty-two at bats over multiple seasons not so much. And it's not like I don't love me some splits, they have a real attraction. But I try to resist believing in their ability to predict future outcomes when the sample size is small, resist the temptationBil522 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 14, 2025 2:40 pmYes it is an antiquated method that maybe should have been used for Mitch Garver and Geno's return visit. It is ironic that the same antiquated method that was used for this for the most part, makes pitchers that pitch in T-Mobile better than they are.Donn Beach wrote: ↑Fri Nov 14, 2025 6:08 amAnd that's based on how many T-Mobile at bats for Duran? Using stadium splits is really a pretty antiquated method of evalustion. Teams these days are running programs that will project an entire season of a player at bats in any stadium. What we have to work with is really pretty limited. I really don't think much of splits to begin with.Bil522 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 14, 2025 5:04 am
Well, trade 1 sucks because Duran is hitting in a hitters paradise and only hits .150/.209/.300 in T-mobile. You are giving up a top notch pitcher for a mediocre outfielder.
Trade 2 Fairbanks is a Free agent so that trade is a no go. Plus TB has new ownership so the same rules may not apply to what you trade them.
Trade 3. The Cardinals want pitching pitching and more pitching in any trade for Donovan so that blows up that trade... but Donovan is the right guy to go after.
Coulombe is 36 and a 5+ERA for Texas after the trading deadline. He had a great pre all star break but a horrible post all star and you want to give him $18 million??? The only way the M's are doing signing Coulombe is after they sign Kyle Tucker, and trade for Paul Skenes.
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Captain 97
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Re: The Captain of all off season plans.
You could be right. I was trying real hard not to be an irrational homer and propose garbage trades that the other team would have no chance at taking. If you can get Duran for prospects not named Emerson or Anderson and keep Kirby I'd be totally fine with that.
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Splits can be good but the most ridiculous ones are vs. a certain pitcher. Such as Canzone is 3 for 7 vs. Skubal so he should start instead of Robles. lolDonn Beach wrote: ↑Fri Nov 14, 2025 3:03 pmI was speaking to sample size, actually playing for a team for multiple seasons is a pretty large sample size for a split, that's the sort of sample size a team would try and create with their programs these days, that's what you want . Thirty-two at bats over multiple seasons not so much. And it's not like I don't love me some splits, they have a real attraction. But I try to resist believing in their ability to predict future outcomes when the sample size is small, resist the temptationBil522 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 14, 2025 2:40 pmYes it is an antiquated method that maybe should have been used for Mitch Garver and Geno's return visit. It is ironic that the same antiquated method that was used for this for the most part, makes pitchers that pitch in T-Mobile better than they are.Donn Beach wrote: ↑Fri Nov 14, 2025 6:08 am
And that's based on how many T-Mobile at bats for Duran? Using stadium splits is really a pretty antiquated method of evalustion. Teams these days are running programs that will project an entire season of a player at bats in any stadium. What we have to work with is really pretty limited. I really don't think much of splits to begin with.
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Re: The Captain of all off season plans.
Yeah, it seemed reasonable to me for that reason, a fair trade should require some pain.Captain 97 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 14, 2025 5:38 pmYou could be right. I was trying real hard not to be an irrational homer and propose garbage trades that the other team would have no chance at taking. If you can get Duran for prospects not named Emerson or Anderson and keep Kirby I'd be totally fine with that.
I've been trying to trade Miller
Re: The Captain of all off season plans.
I think Kirby is the more desirable asset. Duran is a nice player, but less valuable than an established, young frontline starter that's mostly been pretty healthy and has three years of control left.Captain 97 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 14, 2025 5:38 pmYou could be right. I was trying real hard not to be an irrational homer and propose garbage trades that the other team would have no chance at taking. If you can get Duran for prospects not named Emerson or Anderson and keep Kirby I'd be totally fine with that.