Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

[Donn Beach]

They didn't baulk, seems they actually did it, oh well

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.miamih ... 08902.html

[Big_Maple]

They didn't baulk, seems they actually did it, oh well

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.miamih ... 08902.html

Saw that! Dammit! He was the cornerstone of my offseason plan!

Here's a link that doesn't require a paywall:

https://www.mlb.com/news/luis-arraez-marlins-trade

[Donn Beach]

He didn't come cheap to the marlins, Lopez and a couple prospects

[desbcoach]

Wow how is that for a EPIC reverse Jinx, quick acting

[D-train]

They didn't baulk, seems they actually did it, oh well

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.miamih ... 08902.html

Saw that! Dammit! He was the cornerstone of my offseason plan!

Here's a link that doesn't require a paywall:

https://www.mlb.com/news/luis-arraez-marlins-trade

It was a great idea brother...

[Big_Maple]

It was a great idea brother...

He'd have been a good get. And yeah, we would have had to have given up one of our starters. But imagine if we traded for Arraez and not Wong, and then gone after a big name in pitching free agency.

I would have hurt, but offset by the fact that we got an infielder who can hit.

[Pharmabro]

This is a brilliant low key add! From 2017 to 2020 he was a .294//.358///.441 triple slash good for a .800 OPS guy from the left side. He has gap power and I could see him spot starting vs righties in the two hole.

Where exactly is he going to start??? A 78 OPS+ DH??? lol

He's the 3rd and 1st depth guy isn't he?

How in the hell do you figure Hummel is the 1st and 3rd bench guy?
Moore was a 122 OPS+ last year
Haggerty was a 116 OPS+

In the strange event that the catcher gets injured and you had Tom or Cal DHing that day you would only lose the DH for the rest of the game and not the rest of the season so maybe you have to pinch hit for a pitcher or not. Hummel can play catcher but he is like Torrens level first go around. Impotent back there. Murphy if he has recovered is a valued 1st man up off the bench with Seattle he has been a 110 OPS+ guy and he is a solid defender behind the plate. And most catchers play 2/3rds their games even Cal who was young and strong played 77% of the games he could have that is about 125 games based on a full season. I could see Murphy playing 40, 50, 60 games. That puts him as one of your most used couple of bench bats.

For comparison our lowest top 9 Haniger and Santana OF/DH had 294 and 253 PAs. Our two highest used benchies were Toro and Moore with 352 and
255 PAs
Last year Non-Cal catchers had 262 PAs.

I think having a versatile Hummel down in AAA in case of injury is important. Murphy is a FA in 2024 and I expect Ford even if he sticks on catcher will project to 24 at the earliest but probably more like 25.

Just my .02

[Pharmabro]

Why don't we trade some pitching for Luis Arráez

Twins just got dangerous with the fleecing of the Marlins

Sold high on Luis and even got a Marlin top 5 prospect

[D-train]

Where exactly is he going to start??? A 78 OPS+ DH??? lol

He's the 3rd and 1st depth guy isn't he?

How in the hell do you figure Hummel is the 1st and 3rd bench guy?
Moore was a 122 OPS+ last year
Haggerty was a 116 OPS+

In the strange event that the catcher gets injured and you had Tom or Cal DHing that day you would only lose the DH for the rest of the game and not the rest of the season so maybe you have to pinch hit for a pitcher or not. Hummel can play catcher but he is like Torrens level first go around. Impotent back there. Murphy if he has recovered is a valued 1st man up off the bench with Seattle he has been a 110 OPS+ guy and he is a solid defender behind the plate. And most catchers play 2/3rds their games even Cal who was young and strong played 77% of the games he could have that is about 125 games based on a full season. I could see Murphy playing 40, 50, 60 games. That puts him as one of your most used couple of bench bats.

For comparison our lowest top 9 Haniger and Santana OF/DH had 294 and 253 PAs. Our two highest used benchies were Toro and Moore with 352 and
255 PAs
Last year Non-Cal catchers had 262 PAs.

I think having a versatile Hummel down in AAA in case of injury is important. Murphy is a FA in 2024 and I expect Ford even if he sticks on catcher will project to 24 at the earliest but probably more like 25.

Just my .02

Hummel had a higher OPS in the PCL than JK in 2022 yet some dopes think he should get 70% of Starts in LF. I agree that losing DH for part of a game shouldn't impact a roster spot by Jerry literally said that is what he loves about Hummel. That it allows him to DH the other catchers.

[D-train]