So we have a HFA. We are 93% of our road OPS at home and our opponents are only 88% at T Mobile.bpj wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:33 pm.777 OPS against our pitching in Away gamesD-train wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:30 pmSorry I haven't read every post. Do our opponents have the same issues at T Mobile?bpj wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:28 pmI don't think they will ever have a home field advantage.
But having their OPS be equal when at Home like 2013-2017 wouldn't be too much to ask.
T-Mobile clearly affects the home and away team significantly. And it's not just a lack of homeruns.
It's a lack of singles and doubles. Something is causing it.
Hard to say it's the air when it's not homeruns that are lagging at home.
.684 OPS against our pitching in Home games
Mariners pitching gave up 99 HR in Home games and 98 HR in Away games, so, again, it's not homeruns that are making up the difference, it's fewer singles and doubles in T-Mobile.
Mariners batters were:
.710 OPS in Away games
.663 OPS at Home.
SafeCo splits home/away from 2000-2021: A Story of Road Woes?
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Re: SafeCo splits home/away from 2000-2021: A Story of Road Woes?
I'm guessing we have the only home field advantage where our OPS is still lower than the opponents in that case!D-train wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:43 pmSo we have a HFA. We are 93% of our road OPS at home and our opponents are only 88% at T Mobile.bpj wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:33 pm.777 OPS against our pitching in Away games
.684 OPS against our pitching in Home games
Mariners pitching gave up 99 HR in Home games and 98 HR in Away games, so, again, it's not homeruns that are making up the difference, it's fewer singles and doubles in T-Mobile.
Mariners batters were:
.710 OPS in Away games
.663 OPS at Home.
Re: SafeCo splits home/away from 2000-2021: A Story of Road Woes?
Think about it this way, if we trade and sign bats to get us up to a .777 OPS on the road then our expected home OPS would be .93 x .777 = .726 at T Mobile. FAR Better than our opponents.
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Re: SafeCo splits home/away from 2000-2021: A Story of Road Woes?
The problem is, good luck convincing potential free agents to come here when it's almost inevitable that their numbers will drop, "but hey, you'll still have better numbers than your opponents!"
Wish we could reincarnate Edgar in his prime:

Or maybe we can trade everything we have for Mike Trout:

Two people who absolutely LOVE SafeCo.
Re: SafeCo splits home/away from 2000-2021: A Story of Road Woes?
2022 Overall:bpj wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 6:00 pmHome:
HR: 94
1B: 351
2B: 100
3B: 7
Away:
HR: 105
1B: 415
2B: 133
3B: 4
Difference ((Away-Home)/Home)
HR: -11.7%
1B: -18.2%
2B: -33%
3B: +47%
Triples are higher at home. The lack of data seems pretty situational, but does not back my theory on the surface in 2021.
However,
18% fewer singles at home.
33% fewer doubles at home.
Compared to 11% fewer homeruns at home. Seems to be kind of a big deal.
HR: 60 (13th in MLB)
1B: 296 (10th)
2B: 82 (25th)
3B: 8 (13th)
2022 Home:
HR: 26 (19th)
1B: 124 (26th)
2B: 33 (26th)
3B: 4 (13th)
2022 Away:
HR: 34 (7th)
1B: 172 (6th)
2B: 49 (13th)
3B: 4 (12th)
Difference ((Away-Home)/Home)
HR: -31%
1B: -39%
2B: -48%
3B: 0%
Don't forget bpj told you that it was the grass first.
Power (homeruns) obviously takes a beating in Seattle- this year more than most even- but nothing like the singles and doubles disappear.
Re: SafeCo splits home/away from 2000-2021: A Story of Road Woes?
Adam Frazier defying all laws of the universe but only 21 games so far......
How does he suck so bad on the road???? Last season he had a .741 OPS on the road.
How does he suck so bad on the road???? Last season he had a .741 OPS on the road.
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Re: SafeCo splits home/away from 2000-2021: A Story of Road Woes?
Doesn't 35 road games vs 22 home games mean they are actually getting extra-base hits at a higher rate at home?
Re: SafeCo splits home/away from 2000-2021: A Story of Road Woes?
Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Thu Jun 09, 2022 2:07 pmDoesn't 35 road games vs 22 home games mean they are actually getting extra-base hits at a higher rate at home?
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Re: SafeCo splits home/away from 2000-2021: A Story of Road Woes?
Honestly, this is the only spot on the internet I have found this preoccupation with home and away splits. I have looked and can't find anywhere that tries to analyze them like here. It certainly is a unique little feature of this place
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Adjusting home stats to 35 gamesSibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Thu Jun 09, 2022 2:07 pmDoesn't 35 road games vs 22 home games mean they are actually getting extra-base hits at a higher rate at home?
HR 43
1B 207
2B 55
3B 7
2022 Away:
HR: 34 (7th)
1B: 172 (6th)
2B: 49 (13th)
3B: 4 (12th)
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