Preseason Game Thread? Hawks v. Faiders

[Michael K.]

Pretty good for three quarters. Not sure what Milroe was doing on 4th down. I thought he could have run for the 1st. Run game sure looked better than what we have come to expect lately....but I too was disappointed in Martinez. Looked like he was just butt sniffing.

Nothing worse than a QB not running for an easy 1st down and throwing and incompletion or pic. Bret Farve doing it in the playoffs had to be the worst one.

It gave me PTSD. Reminded me of Jake Locker trying to make himself a first round pick with Sark in his ear saying to throw the ball. I never understood why either of those two thought that what a Pro Scout wanted to see what a QB break the pocket on third and short and spike a throw downfield when it was obvious his legs would have extended the drive. But he was SOOO hyper focused on becoming that guy.

Mike Rob was saying it last night...basically calling him a runner that needs to develop to a plus thrower. It was a pre-season game, so no biggie....but he is electric running the football. Lamar would have picked up that first down with his legs. Hurts would have too. Shit, Mahomes probably would have. I think these guys act like there is still some kind of stigma behind being a running QB. There isn't. Yards are yards, TDs are TDs and First Downs are First Downs.

Also, I recorded the game, so was way behind...and didn't post this last night. But did anyone else think they stopped the clock a couple of times when the Raiders were running the kicking unit on before the half? They got tackled in bounds and no way there was time to get that kick off, but he kicked it with like three seconds left because they kept stopping the clock. The game was HORRIBLY officiated in my opinion. Bad both ways, but bad.

[Nwadventure]

That was actually one of the better Pre/Season games I have seen in a long time- Hawks seemed to be energized on offense, sometimes hot sometimes lukewarm but still fun to watch. Officiating was clunky for sure- Defense was not the greatest but lots of backups getting time which I guess is a good thing-

[Michael K.]

I'm also curious about our decision to consistently just kick it into the endzone and give them the ball at the damn 35 yard line. Maybe that is just the Pre Season and we don't want to give anything away, but the Raiders are OBVIOUSLY working on how they can use the new rules to benefit them, and they once kicked the ball into the endzone but used the landing zone, so we got it at the 20, and another attempt resulted in us starting at our own damn 6 yard line. Are we really so shitty in coverage with the new rules that it is better to just give it to them on the 35?

[Donn Beach]

there was a lot of snickering over hiring a run game specialist and run game coordinator but its serious business, they are serious about setting a tone to the offense. And i think we are going to see the offensive line perform better because of it. I posted an item earlier in the off season how they were focused on practicing the details of offensive line play and how it seemed to jive with what i had read about the ravens approach I think you are going to see a difference now

“Seattle struggled to run the ball last season,” explained Michael-Shawn Dugar of The Athletic, “and did not adequately keep pressure out of the quarterback’s face. Instead of overhauling the personnel, coach Mike Macdonald replaced offensive coordinator Ryan Grubb with Klint Kubiak, who brought in offensive line coach John Benton, run game coordinator Rick Dennison and run game specialist Justin Outten…”

Only three teams in the NFL totaled fewer combined running plays than the Seahawks in 2024. “Grubb supposedly began his first team meeting by declaring he’d implement a run-first scheme,” said Dugar. “By Week 5, he was lamenting his lack of called runs for Ken Walker III. It was never clear what Grubb’s offense was supposed to be. Walker said he’s buying what Kubiak is selling regarding a run-first identity because he’s already seeing that the new play caller is a man of his word.”

“I believe him because that’s what we work on in practice,” stated Walker. “You can say the past years, we didn’t practice it as much, so you know you’re not going to go out to the game and do it. But we’ve been practicing it a lot, and we’re real detailed with the run game. So, I believe it wholeheartedly that we’re going to go out and run the ball.”

they are actually practicing it now

[Michael K.]

they are actually practicing it now

Genius. All it took was to practice. I wish someone would have told Bates, Bevell, Schotty, Waldron and Grubb that if you want to be good at playing football you need to practice. LOL

The read option made us a good run team, and so did the line that Carson and Davis ran behind...I believe it had Iupati, Sweezey and Fluker inside. But let's not pretend that the reason we struggled to run the ball lately is because they didn't practice. Guys were losing the battle at the point of attack. The Rookie Guard looked good last night, and so did Abe Lucas. Some of that could be scheme, but a lot of it is Lucas was hardly there last year and Zabel was in college. They have been talent deficient up front, more often than not.

Last night was good, but it was a Pre-Season game against the Raiders. I feel better about our offense, for sure....not saying differently. But it's not because all of a sudden they decided to have the offense practice running the football.

[Donn Beach]

like I said, its the same thing I heard from Lucas earlier. That comment about being elite at a few things sounded straight out of Todd Monken's mouth. He commented that most teams tend to practice a lot of things, the difference is focusing on being elite at a few things

This year, Lucas said the overall offensive philosophy is much different – specifically with its emphasis on running the football.

“We’re trying to be elite at very few things, but those few things are what the offense is going to be based around, and that’s the run game,” Lucas said. “We’re going to be elite at the run game. That’s the philosophy with it. So it’s not some hodgepodge of just a bunch of different stuff we’re just throwing in.

“We’re going to be elite at the basics and make sure that they work so we can do it against anybody.”

[Sibelius Hindemith]

Pete Carroll's face when the last second field goal was blocked LOL...

I mean, why did it matter so much to him?

[Donn Beach]

Pete Carroll's face when the last second field goal was blocked LOL...


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I mean, why did it matter so much to him?

because he is fanatical about competing?

[Sibelius Hindemith]

There's a difference between competing and winning. The blocked field goal pertained to the latter.

[Donn Beach]

There's a difference between competing and winning. The blocked field goal pertained to the latter.

you compete to win, it was a failed play by his team, not surprised at all it upset him. I think Pete's outward personality is deceptive. He seems easy going, laid back. I think it masks how fanatical he is about winning. He wanted to win the game