Breaking News. We traded for Nelson

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Re: Breaking News. We traded for Nelson

Post by Donn Beach » Wed Oct 28, 2026 5:53 pm

DavidGee24 wrote: ↑
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I just read an article on ESPN that has the Hawks as the first candidate to land Taylor (which I don't think any of us sees as realistic at this point) and the second candidate to land Bucs' DE Yaya Diaby, but wouldn't neither of these two fit under the salary cap? My guess is that you'd have to throw in a player and can't just trade draft picks for either player.
I think they can make anything work if they want bad enough, its balancing the repercussions down the line. Its never seemed to slow the Rams down

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Re: Breaking News. We traded for Nelson

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Wed Oct 28, 2026 5:58 pm

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Michael and Aurora - i understand what you're saying, but if JSN gets injured they're left with very little. Having a second receiving threat would open things up more for JSN, not less. I thought Horton could be that guy but for some reason he isn't getting the opportunities. I wojld say trade Shaheed in the deal but with that contract forget it. Maybd trade Horton if they're not going to use him.
or if Rasheed is injured they use both Rasheed and Horton? JSN is on a record breaking pace, they aren't giving Horton enough touches?
Rasheen + Horton + Kupp is not a good receiving corps. Rather, it's quite bad partly because of the never-ending issue with Horton's shin bone and the abilitg of Kupp to avoid injury. That said, it's a crime that Shaheed is ahead of eigher of those two in the depth chart.

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Re: Breaking News. We traded for Nelson

Post by Michael K. » Wed Oct 28, 2026 5:59 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 28, 2026 3:54 pm
Michael and Aurora - i understand what you're saying, but if JSN gets injured they're left with very little. Having a second receiving threat would open things up more for JSN, not less. I thought Horton could be that guy but for some reason he isn't getting the opportunities. I wojld say trade Shaheed in the deal but with that contract forget it. Maybd trade Horton if they're not going to use him.
JS doesn't seem like a "mortgage the future because so and so might get hurt" kind of guy. Filling that spot in the draft or the off season? Sure, but it would have to be another no brainer type deal like the one they just did for Nelson for me to believe we ad a WR. It is just not a high enough priority on this team. Adding a #2 still wouldn't replace JSN in your hypothetical situation. You don't replace the best WR in all of football for a #2 that someone else is trying to sell off.

I imagine they think they will be fine with what they have at WR.

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Re: Breaking News. We traded for Nelson

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Wed Oct 28, 2026 6:03 pm

Donn Beach wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 28, 2026 5:53 pm
DavidGee24 wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 28, 2026 5:39 pm
I just read an article on ESPN that has the Hawks as the first candidate to land Taylor (which I don't think any of us sees as realistic at this point) and the second candidate to land Bucs' DE Yaya Diaby, but wouldn't neither of these two fit under the salary cap? My guess is that you'd have to throw in a player and can't just trade draft picks for either player.
I think they can make anything work if they want bad enough, its balancing the repercussions down the line. Its never seemed to slow the Rams down
What happdned to Fowler? He's averaging 11.6 snaps a game. Thought he wojld have a bigger impact.

Same wigh Mills - 12.9 snapz per gm.

Neither has a sack yet...

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Re: Breaking News. We traded for Nelson

Post by Donn Beach » Wed Oct 28, 2026 6:43 pm

Post off of FGs, it's true isn't it? If you're going to point at a weakness why not TE?
Think about it, Arroyo's gone, I'm not comfortable with Saubert as the 2, especially when more route dynamism is required or anything beyond a leak or a hitch. Would you do what's needed to try and pry away Tyler Warren or Dallas Goedert? Love the idea, but Big Q has fulfiled my MAdden trade dreams. Who are the more realistic lesser known TEs who mights be TE2 candidates?


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Re: Breaking News. We traded for Nelson

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Wed Oct 28, 2026 7:23 pm

Nice little contusion below the elbow of his right arm.

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Re: Breaking News. We traded for Nelson

Post by XpertDBA » Wed Oct 28, 2026 9:02 pm

I had a really dumb question about Bradford and his really good grades run blocking, but his really bad grades pass blocking.

Why would these 2 skills be so completely different? I've always wondered on a pass, why do linemen immediately stand up, go backwards and give ground a little bit to create 'the pocket'? If you're a blocker, wouldn't it be way better to stand your ground and block at the line (obviously not going forward to create a penalty of illegal man downfield), instead of standing up and going backwards? Doesn't that give the defensive player all of the leverage and a huge advantage?

Sorry if that's a dumb question, but I've never understood why 'blocking' is so different between the two disciplines.

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Re: Breaking News. We traded for Nelson

Post by Donn Beach » Wed Oct 28, 2026 11:09 pm

XpertDBA wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 28, 2026 9:02 pm
I had a really dumb question about Bradford and his really good grades run blocking, but his really bad grades pass blocking.

Why would these 2 skills be so completely different? I've always wondered on a pass, why do linemen immediately stand up, go backwards and give ground a little bit to create 'the pocket'? If you're a blocker, wouldn't it be way better to stand your ground and block at the line (obviously not going forward to create a penalty of illegal man downfield), instead of standing up and going backwards? Doesn't that give the defensive player all of the leverage and a huge advantage?

Sorry if that's a dumb question, but I've never understood why 'blocking' is so different between the two disciplines.
Does this help
Aggression in pass protection creates high-risk vulnerabilities that defenses are trained to exploit:

• Loss of Position (The "React and Mirror" Rule): In run blocking, the offensive lineman dictates the direction by driving forward into the defender. In pass protection, the defender chooses the move (speed rush, inside spin, bull rush). If an offensive lineman lunges or plays overly aggressive, the defender can easily side-step or swat the hands, leaving a clear path to a sack.

• The Danger of Over-Extending: Aggressive charges cause an offensive lineman to lean their weight forward and lift their center of gravity. Pass rushers use this momentum against them by pulling or pushing them to the ground (known as a "pass-rushing move" or "swim/rip/pull").

• Rules on Holding and Engagement: Offensive linemen are prohibited from grabbing or tackling defensive players from behind or outside the frame once a rusher gets past them. An aggressive lunge that misses means the lineman is beaten, and holding penalties will get called if they try to recover with brute force.

• The "Depth" Requirement: Pass protection requires a backward drop-step (kick-slide) to match the depth of the quarterback's drop. Charging forward prematurely opens up massive gaps and rushing lanes for defensive tackles and blitzing linebackers.

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