Redskins are changing their name

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Re: Redskins are changing their name

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:56 pm

D-train wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:59 am
So two wrongs make a right and we should continue to judge people and treat them differently based on the color of their skin. Brilliant. btw the vast majority of people's ancestors emigrated post Civil War but they have to pay for the sins of other people's ancestors because they are white and that will make things better. You seem like a smart person, how can you not see the absurdity of that notion?
Also, around 3 million Sub-Saharan Africans have immigrated to America in the past 50 years. That is roughly 8 times the number that were brought here as slaves, and millions more have undoubtedly applied for immigrant status and were turned down. If this is a systemically racist and oppressive nation why did they want to come here?

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Re: Redskins are changing their name

Post by ThePro » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:28 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:56 pm
D-train wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:59 am
So two wrongs make a right and we should continue to judge people and treat them differently based on the color of their skin. Brilliant. btw the vast majority of people's ancestors emigrated post Civil War but they have to pay for the sins of other people's ancestors because they are white and that will make things better. You seem like a smart person, how can you not see the absurdity of that notion?
Also, around 3 million Sub-Saharan Africans have immigrated to America in the past 50 years. That is roughly 8 times the number that were brought here as slaves, and millions more have undoubtedly applied for immigrant status and were turned down. If this is a systemically racist and oppressive nation why did they want to come here?
Because they benefit from the Anti black racism in this country. They are willing to assimilate not fight the system . Those African immigrants consider themselves Europeans.

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Re: Redskins are changing their name

Post by ThePro » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:33 pm

DavidGee24 wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:41 pm
Agreed. All of those who were involved are dead and gone and it's our world now. There's nothing to make up for and the only thing we need to do is not repeat the wrongs that they did. I don't want to pay squat for something that some guy with a goofy wig named Ichabod did in the 1700s. If Americans have to make reparations than so does pretty much the entire world, including Africans whose ancestors enslaved each other. See how ridiculous that sounds?

Reminds me of a documentary I saw about ten or so years ago where they took some World War 2 sailors from the US and Japan out into the Pacific to look for sunken naval vessels. The sailors befriended each other and as they were all sitting there they were asked what message they would like to pass on to people today. One US veteran immediately replied, "Don't do this". Everyone else nodded and that was it. No revenge. No reparations. No dwelling on it even though it was the worst thing humanity ever did. Just don't forget and don't repeat it.
Reparations are for more than slavery. And the oppression of Black Americans is still prevalent today.

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Re: Redskins are changing their name

Post by D-train » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:34 pm

ThePro wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:28 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:56 pm
D-train wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:59 am
So two wrongs make a right and we should continue to judge people and treat them differently based on the color of their skin. Brilliant. btw the vast majority of people's ancestors emigrated post Civil War but they have to pay for the sins of other people's ancestors because they are white and that will make things better. You seem like a smart person, how can you not see the absurdity of that notion?
Also, around 3 million Sub-Saharan Africans have immigrated to America in the past 50 years. That is roughly 8 times the number that were brought here as slaves, and millions more have undoubtedly applied for immigrant status and were turned down. If this is a systemically racist and oppressive nation why did they want to come here?
Because they benefit from the Anti black racism in this country. They are willing to assimilate not fight the system . Those African immigrants consider themselves Europeans.
Funny you say that. I work in a company with 7k employees and one of the members of the 7 person Exec. team is African: Executive Vice President and Head of Global Product Strategy and Commercialization.
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Re: Redskins are changing their name

Post by ThePro » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:36 pm

D-train wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:59 am


So two wrongs make a right and we should continue to judge people and treat them differently based on the color of their skin. Brilliant. btw the vast majority of people's ancestors emigrated post Civil War but they have to pay for the sins of other people's ancestors because they are white and that will make things better. You seem like a smart person, how can you not see the absurdity of that notion?
The immigrants that came to this country all benefitted from the unpaid labor and discrimination of Blacks. from the Slave trade and Jim Crow afterwards. They are equally complicit.

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Re: Redskins are changing their name

Post by ThePro » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:37 pm

D-train wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:34 pm


Funny you say that. I work in a company with 7k employees and one of the members of the 7 person Exec. team is African: Executive Vice President and Head of Global Product Strategy and Commercialization.
Nothing funny about it.

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Re: Redskins are changing their name

Post by D-train » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:44 pm

ThePro wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:36 pm
D-train wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:59 am


So two wrongs make a right and we should continue to judge people and treat them differently based on the color of their skin. Brilliant. btw the vast majority of people's ancestors emigrated post Civil War but they have to pay for the sins of other people's ancestors because they are white and that will make things better. You seem like a smart person, how can you not see the absurdity of that notion?
The immigrants that came to this country all benefitted from the unpaid labor and discrimination of Blacks. from the Slave trade and Jim Crow afterwards. They are equally complicit.
Hopefully these people were thankful they had it so good just because they were white.

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Re: Redskins are changing their name

Post by ThePro » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:51 pm

D-train wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:44 pm
ThePro wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:36 pm
D-train wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:59 am


So two wrongs make a right and we should continue to judge people and treat them differently based on the color of their skin. Brilliant. btw the vast majority of people's ancestors emigrated post Civil War but they have to pay for the sins of other people's ancestors because they are white and that will make things better. You seem like a smart person, how can you not see the absurdity of that notion?
The immigrants that came to this country all benefitted from the unpaid labor and discrimination of Blacks. from the Slave trade and Jim Crow afterwards. They are equally complicit.
Hopefully these people were thankful they had it so good just because they were white.

https://www.google.com/search?q=dust+bo ... 20&bih=937

https://www.google.com/search?q=great+d ... US889US889

https://www.google.com/search?q=tenemen ... US889US889

https://www.google.com/search?q=appalac ... US889US889
And they all revived government assistance to better their situation that were specifically denied Black Americans

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Re: Redskins are changing their name

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:01 pm

bet you they had it better than blacks, at least they were not black on top of everything else going against them

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Re: Redskins are changing their name

Post by D-train » Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:06 pm

ThePro wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:37 pm
D-train wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:34 pm


Funny you say that. I work in a company with 7k employees and one of the members of the 7 person Exec. team is African: Executive Vice President and Head of Global Product Strategy and Commercialization.
Nothing funny about it.
Dude makes $1.32 Million a year so must be smart guy.
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