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[D-train]

We thought the same way of Chris Taylor. Look at him now in L.A.

There's a difference.

Trammell has worked his way out of being a top 10 to now mostly forgotten prospect.

Chris Taylor came out of nowhere and wasnt highly touted.

Hardly, tell that to A-Rod who floundered for 2 years in the show before he lit the world on fire or Trout's first go around in the majors. Trammell hasn't regressed out of the Top 10 anymore than Nelson Cruz wasn't a superstar until he hit his 30's and became "Boomstick." There's still a ton of talent in their, its just being able to unlock it at the next level. Yogi Berra once said "this game is 10% physical and 90% mental."

ARod struggled at for 200 PAs at age 18-19 before hitting .356/1.045 at age 20. Trout also was only 19 when he first came up and put up a .672 OPS in 135 PAs. Trammel is going to be 24 yo in a few months. He might still pan out but Arod and Trout aren't' very good examples.

[D-train]

SS showing some Moxy and JP with the line for the ages.

Still, with Servais forced to have a bullpen start and Bieber capable of reverting the Mariners to their previous plate struggles, this didn’t seem like an equation that would equal success.

And yet, Servais wouldn’t concede to such thinking.

“You can look at it one of two ways: ‘Oh my gosh, it’s Bieber, he’s the Cy Young Award winner and all that other stuff.’ Or you can look at it like, ‘Yeah, let’s go. Bring it. Let’s see what we’ve got.’ And I really feel our club’s kind of at that point. It’s a good challenge for us today. And I’m looking forward to it. I really am.”

On an unusually warm Sunday afternoon for May, the Mariners proved they were up to the challenge. They scored three runs off Bieber in what would be his shortest outing in two seasons. A first-inning RBI single from Kyle Lewis and a bases-loaded, two-run single from J.P. Crawford in the third inning was enough for seven relievers to work through the nine innings in a 3-2 win over Cleveland.


After almost being no-hit in the series opener, the Mariners (21-20) won the final three games to take the series. They also snapped Bieber’s streak of 20 consecutive starts with at least eight strikeouts, which is an MLB record. They also ended his streak of 40 consecutive starts of pitching at least five innings. His official line: 4 2/3 innings pitched, three runs allowed on five hits with four walks and seven strikeouts. He threw 103 pitches with 59 strikes.

Servais didn’t brag about his pregame prescience, but he could sense his team was embracing the challenge.

“Hitting is contagious,” he said. “When you get a couple of guys going, it starts to spread up and down the lineup. It’s just a better vibe and feeling. I thought the last couple nights we did some nice things offensively and I was hoping it would carry into today. I certainly respect their starter and what he’s done, but we were ready. The most impressive thing today is we didn’t chase. We just grinded, and really made him throw a ton of pitches.”

Crawford wasn’t quite as eloquent when asked about his mindset of facing one of the best pitchers in baseball.

“Bring it on, I’m gonna rake your face,” he said. “That’s what I think up there in the box.”

[AT Funchal-Madeira]

SS showing some Moxy and JP with the line for the ages.

n asked about his mindset of facing one of the best pitchers in baseball.

“Bring it on, I’m gonna rake your face,” he said. “That’s what I think up there in the box.”

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God damn, I love that. I was enjoying Crawford's AB's, especially the "inside out swings" which I wish more M's would do.. and now I know why I was enjoying his ABs.

[bpj]

If they can fill every other obvious hole this offseason, maybe they consider one of the expensive SS's?

If he continues anywhere near middle of the pack production though, chances are slim they'll fix what's not that broken imo.

[Juliooooo]

ARod struggled at for 200 PAs at age 18-19 before hitting .356/1.045 at age 20. Trout also was only 19 when he first came up and put up a .672 OPS in 135 PAs. Trammel is going to be 24 yo in a few months. He might still pan out but Arod and Trout aren't' very good examples.

Again, not all development is linear and not everyone is on the same plane. Trammell wasn't quite ready for MLB. Doesn't mean he'll pan out, but you have to look at each player individually and give them their best chance. Nobody is comparing Trammell to these players, but to look at less than 100 plate appearances from a guy who probably was sent up a bit early is WAY too soon to make any judgements about how his career will turn out.

[D-train]

ARod struggled at for 200 PAs at age 18-19 before hitting .356/1.045 at age 20. Trout also was only 19 when he first came up and put up a .672 OPS in 135 PAs. Trammel is going to be 24 yo in a few months. He might still pan out but Arod and Trout aren't' very good examples.

Again, not all development is linear and not everyone is on the same plane. Trammell wasn't quite ready for MLB. Doesn't mean he'll pan out, but you have to look at each player individually and give them their best chance. Nobody is comparing Trammell to these players, but to look at less than 100 plate appearances from a guy who probably was sent up a bit early is WAY too soon to make any judgements about how his career will turn out.

Actually someone did:

Sexymarinersfan wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 2:06 am

Hardly, tell that to A-Rod who floundered for 2 years in the show before he lit the world on fire or Trout's first go around in the majors. Trammell hasn't regressed out of the Top 10 anymore than Nelson Cruz wasn't a superstar until he hit his 30's and became "Boomstick." There's still a ton of talent in their, its just being able to unlock it at the next level. Yogi Berra once said "this game is 10% physical and 90% mental."

[Juliooooo]

ARod struggled at for 200 PAs at age 18-19 before hitting .356/1.045 at age 20. Trout also was only 19 when he first came up and put up a .672 OPS in 135 PAs. Trammel is going to be 24 yo in a few months. He might still pan out but Arod and Trout aren't' very good examples.

Again, not all development is linear and not everyone is on the same plane. Trammell wasn't quite ready for MLB. Doesn't mean he'll pan out, but you have to look at each player individually and give them their best chance. Nobody is comparing Trammell to these players, but to look at less than 100 plate appearances from a guy who probably was sent up a bit early is WAY too soon to make any judgements about how his career will turn out.

Actually someone did:

Sexymarinersfan wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 2:06 am

Hardly, tell that to A-Rod who floundered for 2 years in the show before he lit the world on fire or Trout's first go around in the majors. Trammell hasn't regressed out of the Top 10 anymore than Nelson Cruz wasn't a superstar until he hit his 30's and became "Boomstick." There's still a ton of talent in their, its just being able to unlock it at the next level. Yogi Berra once said "this game is 10% physical and 90% mental."

Thats not comparing the players, its giving an examples of a player who struggled in their first look at the MLB.

[bpj]

Again, not all development is linear and not everyone is on the same plane. Trammell wasn't quite ready for MLB. Doesn't mean he'll pan out, but you have to look at each player individually and give them their best chance. Nobody is comparing Trammell to these players, but to look at less than 100 plate appearances from a guy who probably was sent up a bit early is WAY too soon to make any judgements about how his career will turn out.

Actually someone did:

Sexymarinersfan wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 2:06 am

Hardly, tell that to A-Rod who floundered for 2 years in the show before he lit the world on fire or Trout's first go around in the majors. Trammell hasn't regressed out of the Top 10 anymore than Nelson Cruz wasn't a superstar until he hit his 30's and became "Boomstick." There's still a ton of talent in their, its just being able to unlock it at the next level. Yogi Berra once said "this game is 10% physical and 90% mental."

Thats not comparing the players, its giving an examples of a player who struggled in their first look at the MLB.

Should probably take age into account.

[Juliooooo]

Actually someone did:

Thats not comparing the players, its giving an examples of a player who struggled in their first look at the MLB.

Should probably take age into account.

Its not a matter of that. Its just the fact that not all development is in a straight line. Some guys struggle at first. Doesn't mean they won't figure it out. Look at Nelson Cruz' first 3 years with Texas. Look at our old friend Ketel Marte.

[bpj]

Thats not comparing the players, its giving an examples of a player who struggled in their first look at the MLB.

Should probably take age into account.

Its not a matter of that. Its just the fact that not all development is in a straight line. Some guys struggle at first. Doesn't mean they won't figure it out. Look at Nelson Cruz' first 3 years with Texas. Look at our old friend Ketel Marte.

But if a kid makes it there at 18, they're probably not the same level of player as others trying at 23 to begin with.

Marte was another kid they rushed. 21 and 22 in MLB..

No surprise he doesn't break out until he's normal MLB age in AZ.