Being racist under the guise of Anti Racism

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Re: Being racist under the guise of Anti Racism

Post by IStillLoveTheMs » Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:15 am

D-train wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:54 am
IStillLoveTheMs wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:04 pm
Well… is what they’re saying true?

Let’s say you’re lower income… let’s say you were never able to put money in savings because bills always cleaned your account dry - you worked hard to simply get by. Maybe you have some credit card debt cause it was either take on some debt or your family starves.

You are then laid off your job and don’t have the money to pay your rent, car insurance, cable bill until you’re re-hired…

Is that irresponsibility? Or is that problem with employers paying employees too little so they have $0 in emergency funds and their credit gets torn apart? After all, the person was working… it’s not within their control that they get fired. Were they irresponsible for getting let go?

^^ this scenario impacts minorities more than White people… you can diss them all you want and call them “lazy thugs” or whatever you want I guess… but that does nothing to help resolve the issue. Calling a group less economically able based on data isn’t racist… calling them lazy thugs is.
When I got out of college in 1990 I made $6 and 20 f****** cents an hour and maintain perfect credit and the way I did it was I didn't buy anything I can't afford and I didn't f****** f*** b****** without a condom and I didn't have any two-legged kids.

Pretty f****** simple
People are born into situations significantly worse than you were. People were born under circumstances that they couldn't possibly defend themselves from. Many of those people are stuck because of the situation they were forced into because a life outside of what they know is something nobody has ever even presented to them.

It's not always as easy as... "well pull yourself up by your bootstraps... I had to."

Idk why having empathy for people who are way worse off is so difficult for Republicans... I mean as soon as you post this there's comments about minorities or BLM members being "lazy, gangsta, animals..." What if some of these people are doing their best? Why reduce them to those insults?
I'm not sorry that their best may not be your best. I also don't get why people get all up in arms when people/communities who have been marginalized need a bit of assistance.

We get it... you don't like paying higher premiums, higher taxes to help these "lazy" black people who apparently spend all their money on booze and cigs, shoes whatever else you can come up with... blah blah blah... me me me... it's so tired.

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Re: Being racist under the guise of Anti Racism

Post by bpj » Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:19 am

IStillLoveTheMs wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:15 am
D-train wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:54 am
IStillLoveTheMs wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:04 pm
Well… is what they’re saying true?

Let’s say you’re lower income… let’s say you were never able to put money in savings because bills always cleaned your account dry - you worked hard to simply get by. Maybe you have some credit card debt cause it was either take on some debt or your family starves.

You are then laid off your job and don’t have the money to pay your rent, car insurance, cable bill until you’re re-hired…

Is that irresponsibility? Or is that problem with employers paying employees too little so they have $0 in emergency funds and their credit gets torn apart? After all, the person was working… it’s not within their control that they get fired. Were they irresponsible for getting let go?

^^ this scenario impacts minorities more than White people… you can diss them all you want and call them “lazy thugs” or whatever you want I guess… but that does nothing to help resolve the issue. Calling a group less economically able based on data isn’t racist… calling them lazy thugs is.
When I got out of college in 1990 I made $6 and 20 f****** cents an hour and maintain perfect credit and the way I did it was I didn't buy anything I can't afford and I didn't f****** f*** b****** without a condom and I didn't have any two-legged kids.

Pretty f****** simple
People are born into situations significantly worse than you were. People were born under circumstances that they couldn't possibly defend themselves from. Many of those people are stuck because of the situation they were forced into because a life outside of what they know is something nobody has ever even presented to them.

It's not always as easy as... "well pull yourself up by your bootstraps... I had to."

Idk why having empathy for people who are way worse off is so difficult for Republicans... I mean as soon as you post this there's comments about minorities or BLM members being "lazy, gangsta, animals..." What if some of these people are doing their best? Why reduce them to those insults?
I'm not sorry that their best may not be your best. I also don't get why people get all up in arms when people/communities who have been marginalized need a bit of assistance.

We get it... you don't like paying higher premiums, higher taxes to help these lazy black people... blah blah blah... me me me... it's so tired.
Does that include white people that are born into significantly worse situations? Or only people of color?

If it includes white people the rest is irrelevant babble.

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Re: Being racist under the guise of Anti Racism

Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:09 pm

D-train wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:56 am
Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:50 pm
IStillLoveTheMs wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:04 pm
Well… is what they’re saying true?

Let’s say you’re lower income… let’s say you were never able to put money in savings because bills always cleaned your account dry - you worked hard to simply get by. Maybe you have some credit card debt cause it was either take on some debt or your family starves.

You are then laid off your job and don’t have the money to pay your rent, car insurance, cable bill until you’re re-hired…

Is that irresponsibility? Or is that problem with employers paying employees too little so they have $0 in emergency funds and their credit gets torn apart? After all, the person was working… it’s not within their control that they get fired. Were they irresponsible for getting let go?

^^ this scenario impacts minorities more than White people… you can diss them all you want and call them “lazy thugs” or whatever you want I guess… but that does nothing to help resolve the issue. Calling a group less economically able based on data isn’t racist… calling them lazy thugs is.
Although what you say is true, I'd like to ask where these hypothetical people spend their money:
Do they smoke? Nearly $7 a pack at 2 packs a day?
Do they drink? 3 drinks at a bar will be another $15
What about going to the movies, or having cable TV?
What kind of car do they drive?
Do they drive responsibly, or do they have multiple violations, meaning that they have high insurance rates.

All these things I listed here can cost a person over $1000 month. How/Why should we support "the lowest common dominator"?
Can't wait to meet you next march brother
Should be fun.

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Re: Being racist under the guise of Anti Racism

Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:14 pm

IStillLoveTheMs wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:15 am
D-train wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:54 am
IStillLoveTheMs wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:04 pm
Well… is what they’re saying true?

Let’s say you’re lower income… let’s say you were never able to put money in savings because bills always cleaned your account dry - you worked hard to simply get by. Maybe you have some credit card debt cause it was either take on some debt or your family starves.

You are then laid off your job and don’t have the money to pay your rent, car insurance, cable bill until you’re re-hired…

Is that irresponsibility? Or is that problem with employers paying employees too little so they have $0 in emergency funds and their credit gets torn apart? After all, the person was working… it’s not within their control that they get fired. Were they irresponsible for getting let go?

^^ this scenario impacts minorities more than White people… you can diss them all you want and call them “lazy thugs” or whatever you want I guess… but that does nothing to help resolve the issue. Calling a group less economically able based on data isn’t racist… calling them lazy thugs is.
When I got out of college in 1990 I made $6 and 20 f****** cents an hour and maintain perfect credit and the way I did it was I didn't buy anything I can't afford and I didn't f****** f*** b****** without a condom and I didn't have any two-legged kids.

Pretty f****** simple
People are born into situations significantly worse than you were. People were born under circumstances that they couldn't possibly defend themselves from. Many of those people are stuck because of the situation they were forced into because a life outside of what they know is something nobody has ever even presented to them.

It's not always as easy as... "well pull yourself up by your bootstraps... I had to."

Idk why having empathy for people who are way worse off is so difficult for Republicans... I mean as soon as you post this there's comments about minorities or BLM members being "lazy, gangsta, animals..." What if some of these people are doing their best? Why reduce them to those insults?
I'm not sorry that their best may not be your best. I also don't get why people get all up in arms when people/communities who have been marginalized need a bit of assistance.

We get it... you don't like paying higher premiums, higher taxes to help these "lazy" black people who apparently spend all their money on booze and cigs, shoes whatever else you can come up with... blah blah blah... me me me... it's so tired.
Just the ignorance of what you said is astounding.

Bad decisions are bad decisions. Doesn't matter the color, race, gender or zip code.

Now, do you know why BLM members are considered gangsta and animals (they certainly are not lazy)? Because if they were out there fighting the good fight, they would not have looted, burned and destroyed every place they were. People wanting change do it in a civil way, not in a 'scorched earth' fashion.

And these people are not lazy. Just look at the energy and chaos they bring with them. And I wonder why there is such energy.......is it because there is so much carnage that every person with "wanting" in their hearts understands that they normally could not afford that $500 TV, but once BLM/Antifa breaks into an electronics store it's fair game to steal what they want?

These people are not out looting super markets so they can eat. They are taking HIGH-PRICED items that they are coveting.

That, my friend, is why they are called animals and gangsta.

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Re: Being racist under the guise of Anti Racism

Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:15 pm

So now is when you try to tell me that I am from a well to do family and wouldn't understand the plight of the poor.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

If that were only true.

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Re: Being racist under the guise of Anti Racism

Post by HawkBowler 2.0 » Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:32 pm

Well, personally, I was born to a black family.
Worked my way up through oppression to earn
privilege credits so I could be moved to a white
family.

People are just lazy, okay

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Re: Being racist under the guise of Anti Racism

Post by HawkBowler 2.0 » Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:54 pm

When I got out of college in 1990 I made $6 and 20 f****** cents an hour and maintain perfect credit and the way I did it was I didn't buy anything I can't afford and I didn't f****** f*** b****** without a condom and I didn't have any two-legged kids.

Pretty f****** simple
:lol:

I prefer the kids with two legs.

The problem, I think DT, is that the $6.20 an hour from 1990 is $28 an hour now.

My first job was at Pizza Hutt when I was in high school. I believe the year would be 87-88ish... my pay was $3.25 an hour. And I felt good about that, why? It was a full dollar more than the waitresses made. Then again, they got tips which dwarfed my entire salary, but I liked the superiority of the higher hourly wage.

I was a rich man back then. Really I was. Lived at home with mom. No rent. My first car, an AMC Gremlin cost me $500. I could fill the entire tank with gas and buy a pack of smokes for less than $20. A Happy Meal at McDonalds was $2... now it's like $12....don't be eating at McDs... not that I have to tell anyone... I'm worried the evil idiots are throwing the chattle in the McNuggets or something... the two legged chattle kind.

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Re: Being racist under the guise of Anti Racism

Post by ddraig » Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:57 pm

So what they are saying is that if I work hard and go out and purchase three cars, two or four gaming computers, and a TV for every room in my house, I'm not responsible for being $100,000 in debt? How interesting. This is the Ant and Grasshopper conundrum. Why is it that the ants always end up paying for the grasshopper? I'm sorry, but living within one's means should be taught in every school starting in pre-kindergarten. Instead we teach that what happens to you in life isn't your fault! When I look at many people living in poverty, I usually count the number of automobiles and TV's. Living within your means doesn't usually apply with them.

Your kid can usually get a free computer from their school. One TV is enough. And my God! How did my family ever survive with four drivers in the house and only two cars? As for those who were laid off due to covid, there is still unemployment and food stamps. Maybe you have to move out of your house, but in today's housing market, that could be a plus! Go rent a three bedroom apartment with that $200,000 profit you pocketed from the sale of the house you bought four years ago. Don't buy a computer and TV for each of your kids. How many cell phones do you need? What's wrong with basic cable? And never buy a car for your kid when they graduate from High School. Oh yeah. And ask your kid to get a job when they turn 16 to help with expenses. Oh, and stop going to the fast food place for dinner five times a week. Go buy some veggies, get some meat, and make a stew that will last for a couple of days.

Most of us don't cut back when economic troubles hit us, but there are plenty of ways to live within your means that I haven't mentioned. Cut back. But don't expect the rest of us to pay for your profligate ways!
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Re: Being racist under the guise of Anti Racism

Post by ddraig » Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:59 pm

HawkBowler 2.0 wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:54 pm
When I got out of college in 1990 I made $6 and 20 f****** cents an hour and maintain perfect credit and the way I did it was I didn't buy anything I can't afford and I didn't f****** f*** b****** without a condom and I didn't have any two-legged kids.

Pretty f****** simple
:lol:

I prefer the kids with two legs.

The problem, I think DT, is that the $6.20 an hour from 1990 is $28 an hour now.

My first job was at Pizza Hutt when I was in high school. I believe the year would be 87-88ish... my pay was $3.25 an hour. And I felt good about that, why? It was a full dollar more than the waitresses made. Then again, they got tips which dwarfed my entire salary, but I liked the superiority of the higher hourly wage.

I was a rich man back then. Really I was. Lived at home with mom. No rent. My first car, an AMC Gremlin cost me $500. I could fill the entire tank with gas and buy a pack of smokes for less than $20. A Happy Meal at McDonalds was $2... now it's like $12....don't be eating at McDs... not that I have to tell anyone... I'm worried the evil idiots are throwing the chattle in the McNuggets or something... the two legged chattle kind.
Adjusted for inflation, $6.25 in 1990 is equal to $12.91 in 2021.
Annual inflation over this period was 2.37%.

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Re: Being racist under the guise of Anti Racism

Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:17 pm

Back in the 80's the State of Washington minimum wage was $3.35 per hour....well at least in 1982 when I started to bus tables, then work at the movie theater, and work at the grocery store until I left in 1988.

I don't know exactly when it started to raise every year, but it's currently at $13.69 per hour.
When in the hell did minimum wage become a living wage?

Here is the kicker.......the full minimum wage is for 16 year old and above. That means a high school student can be making the same as their parents. If that's the case, if the student has ZERO ambition in life, why continue with school? I am already making as much as my parents. I can drop out of school, get 30K a year, food stamps, welfare and life the life that they do.

Can you believe that......a 16 year old irrigation pipe mover is getting $13.69 per hour. I don't know about you, but there are not many hard working 16 year olds.

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