Kyle Seagers Production

[SeattleSportsRUs]

Both Kyle Seager and Mitch Hanigers dips in on base % and disparity in K to BB ratio are the result of hitting in a bad lineup.

You cannot tell me that a little bit more protection around them wouldn't take a lot of stress of their shoulders. Pitchers seldom give into them knowing that aside from Ty France, nobody else is doing damage.

[D-train]

Ok, you guys have convinced me, I guess I was wrong about Seager. It's just his lack of first half production that really gets to me, but I can see from what you've written here that there are other more important things to consider. Pretty interesting perspective.

I know people care more about power than strikeouts.... and I'm glad Kyle has hit his 33 homeruns, but I don't like his average or his strikeouts, nor really his slowness on the basepaths... The Mariners currently rank as the 6th highest in the majors in strikeouts. The Houston Astros have the least strikeouts of any team in baseball. I believe the fact they are so hard to strike out contributes to them having the best offense in baseball.

There is very little correlation between Ks and runs believe it or not.

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[Sibelius Hindemith]

Another year of Seager (disgruntled or not)is the least of our worries. However, if they could exercise his option then immediately trade him that might not be so bad.

[D-train]

Both Kyle Seager and Mitch Hanigers dips in on base % and disparity in K to BB ratio are the result of hitting in a bad lineup.

You cannot tell me that a little bit more protection around them wouldn't take a lot of stress of their shoulders. Pitchers seldom give into them knowing that aside from Ty France, nobody else is doing damage.

Maybe but Haniger has Seager and Seager has France or Toro behind them. Toro is the guy that could use that excuse but his OBP is good. My biggest issue is OBP with both Seager and Haniger. Need to be well above .300 and certainly not below it.

[D-train]

Another year of Seager (disgruntled or not)is the least of our worries. However, if they could exercise his option then immediately trade him that might not be so bad.

I wonder if the poison pill would still vest in that case. Only a $3 million difference though.

[SeattleSportsRUs]

Another year of Seager (disgruntled or not)is the least of our worries. However, if they could exercise his option then immediately trade him that might not be so bad.

There's nothing wrong with a Kyle Seager who is hitting 5th or 6th in your lineup. Kyle Seager is not a number 3 or 4 hitter. He's been forced to hit in these spots because aside from Haniger and France (who is probably more of a 2 hitter) nobody else can. I think it's unfair to assess a guy who is a career .750-.780 OPS hitter in the same light as guys who are supposed to be .870-.930 OPS hitters.

[Donn Beach]

he is going to have 10-5 rights

for you spelling nazis, tweet from the U of Indiana

https://twitter.com/Matt_Cohen_/status/ ... 4232236046

[AT Funchal-Madeira]

Kyle Seager and Mitch Haniger have the 15th and 16th highest strikeout totals in baseball this year. I believe both Toro and France should hit above them in the lineup. Interesting fact... Edgar led the league from the 3 hole and 4 hole in times on base three times, more than Ichiro. Even though you lose about 45-60 PA per season in the 3 or 4 hole opposed to leading off. Edgar reached base over three hundred times at least twice in a season.... Ichiro only once.

[Sibelius Hindemith]

Another year of Seager (disgruntled or not)is the least of our worries. However, if they could exercise his option then immediately trade him that might not be so bad.

I wonder if the poison pill would still vest in that case. Only a $3 million difference though.

Is there a trade clause in his contract?

[Sibelius Hindemith]

Another year of Seager (disgruntled or not)is the least of our worries. However, if they could exercise his option then immediately trade him that might not be so bad.

There's nothing wrong with a Kyle Seager who is hitting 5th or 6th in your lineup. Kyle Seager is not a number 3 or 4 hitter. He's been forced to hit in these spots because aside from Haniger and France (who is probably more of a 2 hitter) nobody else can. I think it's unfair to assess a guy who is a career .750-.780 OPS hitter in the same light as guys who are supposed to be .870-.930 OPS hitters.

You misunderstood me. I like Seager and think he could bring back a decent return if traded to a contending team that is weak at 3B. And if his career OPS is adjusted for ball park factors it's probably in the low to mid .800s.