Covid-19

[ddraig]

And if your choices are Biden and Trump?

[seattlefan-daBronx]

And if your choices are Biden and Trump?

God help us!
It's almost like they purposefully put someone incompetent in there
so no matter what idiotic things they say or do it won't be taken seriously.

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

I do have a tendency of believing Dr. Ryan Cole. I posted the link a couple months ago.

He has a way of stating the facts without needing to resort to comparing it to Nazi shit and death camps.

I do have a tendency of believing Dr. Ryan Cole. I posted the link a couple months ago.

He has a way of stating the facts without needing to resort to comparing it to Nazi shit and death camps.

Fair enough, but how am I supposed to discredit and shame you if you disagree with me? Nazism plays well and, let's be honest, the racist card has been pretty much played out.

The next time I am in LA, you get together and have that drink.
Most likely, you will be coming to me because I hate the entire LA area....but they pay me too well to keep me away.


Check out Krystal and Saagar's Breaking Points on youtube. It's highly debate and opinion oriented - but they come different sides, while respecting each other and often times agreeing. Rogan is a big source of information, Kim Iversen on The HIll is pretty moderate. She has good debates with Ryan and Robbie, both of them are a bit clownish, but it makes for a more balanced discussion. Matt Taibi is good. he used to do good content for rolling stone. Man, that mag is a sinking ship. Used to do good investigative pieces - so did Playboy. Taibbi used to be a big anti trumper - but has done a 180 - not as a fan, but in acknowledging how the media completely railroaded him for 4 years. He and Rogan talk about it openly. Both used to trash him, now they credit his policies and how much better everything was. Seeing the change in opinions - based on common sense an a rejection of false narratives - is awesome to witness. I think it's happening all over the country.

[ddraig]

And if your choices are Biden and Trump?

God help us!
It's almost like they purposefully put someone incompetent in there
so no matter what idiotic things they say or do it won't be taken seriously.

I will take Trump's tweets and his economy over what Biden is going to give us. Can you say 1978 all over again. Then too, no country wanted to mess with Trump. If Russia moves into Ukraine, you think anything Biden does is going to make Putin flinch? Russia owns us right now because we need their oil. We wouldn't be in this position if Biden hadn't shut down the pipeline and halted fracking by increasing leases.

Am I better off today? Not really. So I'll take Trump and if he's smart, he'll tab DeSantis as his Veep. Then we have a chance of normalcy from 2024 t0 2036.

[Mel Bradford]

Biden fear porn:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP757f9GD6A

Will the 4th estate hold them accountable when its discovered to be 100% BS ?

OH, wait, the 4th estate IS delivering the BS.

The West has found a way to kill itself the old fashioned way........unmitigated lust for power.

[D-train]

Fauci, Trump, Biden....it doesn't matter who....they are just bitches for Big Pharma money.
Trump can no longer play dumb or play the blame game anymore.
Shit he's proud of it! And he imho will lose his base over it.

I had what Trump said and I thought, "yeah he deserves credit for pushing the vaccine development." I've argued this with a few of my "leftish" friends.

Then I read what you said, and I guess I realize that I'm not Trump's base.

Maybe we should have this issue be as stark and clear as possible, and then have the people vote on it. What do you think?

77% of the country has been vaxed. I would think Trumps base is larger than 23%.

[auroraave]

Very interesting article -Top FDA officials resign in protest over Biden's "Policy over science" vis a vis the 4th booster shot. "Is there even a net health benefit...?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqQjQq4 ... rasadMDMPH

[seattlefan-daBronx]

As of 6 a.m. EDT Dec. 21, a total of 204,578,725 Americans had been fully vaccinated, or 61.6 percent of the country's population, according to the CDC's data. That is if we're trusting the CDC data now.

18 percent of those 62 percent vaccinated account for California and New york. Thank God for the electoral college.

[D-train]

As of 6 a.m. EDT Dec. 21, a total of 204,578,725 Americans had been fully vaccinated, or 61.6 percent of the country's population, according to the CDC's data. That is if we're trusting the CDC data now.

18 percent of those 62 percent vaccinated account for California and New york. Thank God for the electoral college.

My number is at least one vax which means they obviously aren't averse to the vax.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracke ... klast7days

[D-train]

On Jan 20th when Biden took office there were 189k new cases. On December 20th there were 235k cases. So in 11 months of Biden ending the pandemic, cases are up about 25% despite hundreds of millions of Vax doses.

Biden just said they were surprised that Omnicron spread so rapidly.