Old Timers

[D-train]

Not an old timer but I just noticed Alvin Davis had far more walks than Ks despite being a power hitter. Check out 1989, 101 BBs and only 49 Ks.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... al01.shtml

[Pharmabro]

Watching some of these old timers play in old clips, it seems pretty obvious that the level of athlete in MLB has improved tenfold.

In the same way that the competition got harder when blacks joined MLB, it makes sense to me that adding the best players from (nearly) every nationality has pushed the level of overall talent much higher.

I don't think 75% of the guys that played alongside the old greats would make it past AA and even some of the greats hardly look like they would make a team now.

It's odd watching some of them, they don't look athletic in the slightest.

Wondering what some of you that actually watched them play think.

Look at some of these dopes. Babe Ruth has one of the ugliest swings I've ever seen. I think he'd get eaten alive by today's pitchers.
https://youtu.be/_EJxVFU8UNo

Yes, well. The average size of soldier that fought in the Civil War was 5'7" and 143# NOw it is 5'9&1/8" and nearly 200#. Not to mention the science of performance. Roids, exercise, nutrition. One of the jokes you will often hear from a immigrant comedian is something like America is so great because even the poor chicks have big fat asses or something cleaner.

[ddraig]

Really old, old timer stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaxrzW3aSrc

[Captain 97]

Not an old timer but I just noticed Alvin Davis had far more walks than Ks despite being a power hitter. Check out 1989, 101 BBs and only 49 Ks.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... al01.shtml

This popped up on my facebook feed today. 7 hall of famers behind him on this list. Alvin's career was very brief but he was a stud for a period of about 5 years.

[D-train]

Not an old timer but I just noticed Alvin Davis had far more walks than Ks despite being a power hitter. Check out 1989, 101 BBs and only 49 Ks.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... al01.shtml

This popped up on my facebook feed today. 7 hall of famers behind him on this list. Alvin's career was very brief but he was a stud for a period of about 5 years.
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Nice. Amazing that Edgar's CAREER OBP was .418.

[Donn Beach]

Signing the Mariners’ contract offer was not a slam-dunk decision for Davis. He also received an offer for a full-ride scholarship for a master’s program in educational psychology from ASU

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

I honestly don't think Ruth would have made it:
He was a drunk. He wouldn't have taken advantage of any training or nutrition that today's players do. He would spit on the science, he would continue to be a drunk, he would rarely make it to a game sober.
DONE

I also don't think Cobb would make it:
I believe he also had a drinking problem, but he was a mean person in life and a worse drunk. He had all the talent in the world, but would have been suspended to many times, the league would have kicked him out. Fights, cheating, fights, drinking......
DONE

Just my opinion on these two.

I do believe that Cy Young, Johnson and a lot of the other players would have made it. They wanted to excel, they would have used the science of the sport, studied the film, practiced, etc...

There are a few people that no matter what era they would have been great:
Griffey; word is he rarely used the science of nutrition or training. He was still great.
Johnson; phycho, but still could throw a ball through a garage door.
Boggs; hell he may not have used the science or nutrition either and he was still great.
Mantel
Paige
Lots more with the RAW TALENT that would survive the cross-over.

[Donn Beach]

You're raising babe Ruth in the 21st century? Who knows how he turns out. He is the all-time WAR leader, that's supposed to cross generations

[D-train]

I honestly don't think Ruth would have made it:
He was a drunk. He wouldn't have taken advantage of any training or nutrition that today's players do. He would spit on the science, he would continue to be a drunk, he would rarely make it to a game sober.
DONE

I also don't think Cobb would make it:
I believe he also had a drinking problem, but he was a mean person in life and a worse drunk. He had all the talent in the world, but would have been suspended to many times, the league would have kicked him out. Fights, cheating, fights, drinking......
DONE

Just my opinion on these two.

I do believe that Cy Young, Johnson and a lot of the other players would have made it. They wanted to excel, they would have used the science of the sport, studied the film, practiced, etc...

There are a few people that no matter what era they would have been great:
Griffey; word is he rarely used the science of nutrition or training. He was still great.
Johnson; phycho, but still could throw a ball through a garage door.
Boggs; hell he may not have used the science or nutrition either and he was still great.
Mantel
Paige
Lots more with the RAW TALENT that would survive the cross-over.

The Babe Ruth Drinking stories are likely mostly myths and fables. I have Never heard of Cobb having any issues with drinking.

Its well documented that Mantle DIED of Alcoholism at age 63.

[D-train]

Cobb can be partly credited for that growth, according to Leerhsen. Besides his fast-moving steals, he brought an aristocratic air to the ballplayer image. He was more educated, and he carried himself accordingly. While many of his hard-drinking counterparts played day games hung over after a rough night out, Cobb kept his distance. That made him more palatable to the public, but less palatable to his fellow ballplayers. "It was a source of tension," Leershen said. "In Washington, he'd go to the Library of Congress in his off hours to read, and that annoyed the hell out of them."