Current status of the RW trade

[Gametime]

check DK's numbers in the Geno Smith games -they were his best games. Plus, let's say DK gets pissy and demands a trade. It at least gets us another high draft pick and saves $25million in cap space (using AJ Brown's new contract as comparison). That could get us that franchise QB. Personally, I'd trade a franchise WR for a franchise QB all day, every day.

Yep was just going to say that. DK even made the comment after Geno finally threw him a nice Jump ball for a TD that it was the first time it happened. Maybe DK forced RW out! LOL

And wasn't Drew Lock a first round pick? I realize he hasn't panned out, but it isn't like one of the rookies was going to come in here this year and lead us to the playoffs.

Drew and Geno were both second rounders.

[Gametime]

Seattle used the actual ninth overall pick to select Mississippi State offensive tackle Charles Cross.

I wonder if this will be lost on Russ when after he signs his Mega Deal in Denver they can't pay O Lineman to block for him, oh, and don't have any picks left either!

Good point. Only outlier I have seen thst isn’t true is a good gm and coach like the Rams. They trade picks like candy and pay big and still win playoff games and go 1 for two in super bowls.

[Michael K.]

Seattle used the actual ninth overall pick to select Mississippi State offensive tackle Charles Cross.

I wonder if this will be lost on Russ when after he signs his Mega Deal in Denver they can't pay O Lineman to block for him, oh, and don't have any picks left either!

Good point. Only outlier I have seen thst isn’t true is a good gm and coach like the Rams. They trade picks like candy and pay big and still win playoff games and go 1 for two in super bowls.

I think the Rams model would be real tough to follow. The Bills, Chiefs, Bengals, Titans, 49ers, Packers and Bucs were the other seven teams to make the NFC Divisional Round. I wouldn't compare what they did to be anything close to the Rams. What drives me nuts is most of those teams use a combination of both draft picks and FAs. We act like signing FAs is a Death Wish.

[SeattleAddict]

I wonder if this will be lost on Russ when after he signs his Mega Deal in Denver they can't pay O Lineman to block for him, oh, and don't have any picks left either!

Good point. Only outlier I have seen thst isn’t true is a good gm and coach like the Rams. They trade picks like candy and pay big and still win playoff games and go 1 for two in super bowls.

I think the Rams model would be real tough to follow. The Bills, Chiefs, Bengals, Titans, 49ers, Packers and Bucs were the other seven teams to make the NFC Divisional Round. I wouldn't compare what they did to be anything close to the Rams. What drives me nuts is most of those teams use a combination of both draft picks and FAs. We act like signing FAs is a Death Wish.

People forget the Rams built the core of their team by sucking for several years straight, and loading up on draft picks that panned out. Then, when they were positioned to make a run, they went all-in and it paid off. They made quality moves, and deserve credit for that, but it's not like they magically signed 3 or 4 guys and got to the Super Bowl. Their model is hard to replicate, and in a couple of years, they will pay the price. In fact, I'm still dumbfounded by how they can pay everybody. There's only so long you can kick the can down the road with contracts.

[D-train]

Good point. Only outlier I have seen thst isn’t true is a good gm and coach like the Rams. They trade picks like candy and pay big and still win playoff games and go 1 for two in super bowls.

I think the Rams model would be real tough to follow. The Bills, Chiefs, Bengals, Titans, 49ers, Packers and Bucs were the other seven teams to make the NFC Divisional Round. I wouldn't compare what they did to be anything close to the Rams. What drives me nuts is most of those teams use a combination of both draft picks and FAs. We act like signing FAs is a Death Wish.

People forget the Rams built the core of their team by sucking for several years straight, and loading up on draft picks that panned out. Then, when they were positioned to make a run, they went all-in and it paid off. They made quality moves, and deserve credit for that, but it's not like they magically signed 3 or 4 guys and got to the Super Bowl. Their model is hard to replicate, and in a couple of years, they will pay the price. In fact, I'm still dumbfounded by how they can pay everybody. There's only so long you can kick the can down the road with contracts.

I think you are misremembering. They haven't been under .500 since 2016 and didn't have a first round pick in 2017. In 2016 they took Jarred Goff number on overall. Is that who you are talking about. Didn't have a first round pick in 2015 either. In 2014 STL Rams took Greg Robinson but he only played for the Rams until 2016.

[SeattleAddict]

they had 4 years in a row where they had top 10 picks. They got Goff, who eventually netted them Stafford, but also Aaron Donald, who is so good he instantly makes almost any defense formidable. Add to that Cooper Kupp, Cam Akers, Tavon Austin, Alec Ogletree, Todd Gurley, and their entire O-Line. Nearly everybody they drafted ended up on the team, and while they weren't necessarily stars, that is the bulk of their roster.

[auroraave]

Rams were a dumpster fire for a solid decade before McVey - they stockpiled a LOT of high end draft picks. Seattle has had ONE in ten years. Whenever PC/JS have had high end capitol they have used it well. Cardinals bottomed out and so did the 9ers. Seattle has had one losing record in a decade and is still only a year removed from the NFC West title. They never get the high end picks needed to replenish the roster and still manage to compete. They trade away the stench of Mediocrity and replenished the cupboard quite nicely. Plus a QB with potential and with no pressure on him, stud DL and a stud TE. Pretty savvy.

[Sibelius Hindemith]

Whenever PC/JS have had high end capitol they have used it well.

The sample size is kind of small - three top-15 picks. They nailed one (Earl Thomas), got roughly expected value from another (Russell Okung), and got less than expected value from the other (Bruce Irvin).

[Michael K.]

Rams were a dumpster fire for a solid decade before McVey - they stockpiled a LOT of high end draft picks. Seattle has had ONE in ten years. Whenever PC/JS have had high end capitol they have used it well. Cardinals bottomed out and so did the 9ers. Seattle has had one losing record in a decade and is still only a year removed from the NFC West title. They never get the high end picks needed to replenish the roster and still manage to compete. They trade away the stench of Mediocrity and replenished the cupboard quite nicely. Plus a QB with potential and with no pressure on him, stud DL and a stud TE. Pretty savvy.

Jesus dude, McVey has been there for five years. Besides Donald, who did they stockpile in those years prior to McVey coaching in 2017? That said, I agree with you on the Wilson trade. Very savvy. I also am going to find it very interesting if they are the fourth best team in their division this year, Russ is the third best QB in the division and they have to sign him....no cap space and no draft picks. I think Denver fucked up, to be perfectly honest with you.

Seattle Addict

they had 4 years in a row where they had top 10 picks. They got Goff, who eventually netted them Stafford, but also Aaron Donald, who is so good he instantly makes almost any defense formidable. Add to that Cooper Kupp, Cam Akers, Tavon Austin, Alec Ogletree, Todd Gurley, and their entire O-Line. Nearly everybody they drafted ended up on the team, and while they weren't necessarily stars, that is the bulk of their roster.

So, they hit on draft picks, that is their job, you know, the job our FO didn't do? Maybe I am missing the point, but the Rams WORST season since McVey got there was 9 and 7 and they missed the playoffs. 5 seasons of making the playoffs, two Super Bowl appearances, one win and one loss and one season missing the playoffs. Sound familiar? So, somehow they compare very similarly with us, but they make impactful moves in FAs and the draft picks they do have hit, and somehow they are lucky and we are just unlucky?

Go look at the moves we were making five years after the first Super Bowl, and tell yourselves they look like what the Rams have done with what they have had available! I remember reading in here how they were gonna be screwed by Gurley and Goff's contracts. A few years later they are manipulating the cap, signing guys and drafting quality, and winning Super Bowls. Not sure that somehow is because six seasons ago they were losers and loaded up in that draft.

[D-train]

they had 4 years in a row where they had top 10 picks. They got Goff, who eventually netted them Stafford, but also Aaron Donald, who is so good he instantly makes almost any defense formidable. Add to that Cooper Kupp, Cam Akers, Tavon Austin, Alec Ogletree, Todd Gurley, and their entire O-Line. Nearly everybody they drafted ended up on the team, and while they weren't necessarily stars, that is the bulk of their roster.

2013 - 8th overall pick Tayvon Austin He was good in 2016 when the won four games but only had 13 catches when the won the division in 2017. Went to Dallas in 2018
2014 - 2nd overall pick The previously mentioned Robinson. Last season with them was 2016 when they went 4-12
2015 - 10th pick Gurley. Ok here you go but he left after the 2019 season
2016 - 1st overall Goff. Maybe you can say they couldn't have got Stafford without him? LOL

None of the four contributed to the SB Champion team.