M's get Wong for Winker and Toro!!

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Re: M's get Wong for Winker and Toro!!

Post by Sexymarinersfan » Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:32 pm

bpj wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:31 pm
Dipoto just loves these trades where he can throw in a guy like Toro who was a flop from another trade.

Now he can say that trading Graveman helped get us Wong.
Great point! It also free's up an extra spot on the 40-man. We've traded two OF so far this offseason. I definitely think that the M's will trade or sign another one. They could easily bring back Mitch Haniger now.

How is everybody feeling about this over Gleyber Torres? For what we gave up to acquire Wong; I'd say I prefer this to giving up prospects for Torres. At least now I won't have to listen to those douchebags in NY ask for Kirby for Torres anymore
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Re: M's get Wong for Winker and Toro!!

Post by D-train » Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:32 pm

Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:29 pm
Big_Maple wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:31 pm
D-train wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:30 pm
Jerry is a Genius!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
I feel like they are paying us to take out our garbage, or something.
I'm just glad I don't have to watch Winker play defense for us anymore.
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Re: M's get Wong for Winker and Toro!!

Post by Seattle or Bust » Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:34 pm

TraderGary wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:28 pm
Best part of this trade is getting rid of Winker and Toro. Not seeing either of them in an M's uniform ever again is a win in itself. That said, I don't see how acquiring Wong with his career .732 OPS (which will only go lower as he ages and playing in T-Mobile) helps to close the gap with Houston in any way. He's a slight upgrade from Frazier, but not in a significant way.

He's the type of player a team like KC or the A's with very little resources ($) would trade for. I've very lukewarm on this deal. How does a middle infield of Crawford and Wong compete with a middle infield of Pena and Altuve.

Sorry to be a downer, but this just doesn't excite me in the least, other than the addition by subtraction aspect of getting rid of the two black holes and a clubhouse cancer in Winker and Toro. I think by midseason, everyone here is going to be complaining about Wong the same as we were about Frazier. I really hope he proves me wrong and makes me eat crow.
It's a platoon addition. They're likely going to roll with Moore against lefties and Wong against righties.

Wong had a .845 OPS against righties in 125 games last season. He had a .441 OPS against lefties.

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Re: M's get Wong for Winker and Toro!!

Post by TraderGary » Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:34 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:26 pm
I for one am ecstatic that I never have to watch Toro play baseball again in an M's uniform.

I have probably never disliked a player more. I hate his style of play. Drives me up a wall.
100% this

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Re: M's get Wong for Winker and Toro!!

Post by seattlefan-daBronx » Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:37 pm

D-train wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:30 pm
Jerry is a Genius!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Wong Tong apple fucking pie! I like it Jerrry!
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Re: M's get Wong for Winker and Toro!!

Post by TraderGary » Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:39 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:34 pm
TraderGary wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:28 pm
Best part of this trade is getting rid of Winker and Toro. Not seeing either of them in an M's uniform ever again is a win in itself. That said, I don't see how acquiring Wong with his career .732 OPS (which will only go lower as he ages and playing in T-Mobile) helps to close the gap with Houston in any way. He's a slight upgrade from Frazier, but not in a significant way.

He's the type of player a team like KC or the A's with very little resources ($) would trade for. I've very lukewarm on this deal. How does a middle infield of Crawford and Wong compete with a middle infield of Pena and Altuve.

Sorry to be a downer, but this just doesn't excite me in the least, other than the addition by subtraction aspect of getting rid of the two black holes and a clubhouse cancer in Winker and Toro. I think by midseason, everyone here is going to be complaining about Wong the same as we were about Frazier. I really hope he proves me wrong and makes me eat crow.
It's a platoon addition. They're likely going to roll with Moore against lefties and Wong against righties.

Wong had a .845 OPS against righties in 125 games last season. He had a .441 OPS against lefties.
Thank you for that info. I was not aware of the OPS splits for Wong. That actually makes me feel better about this.

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Re: M's get Wong for Winker and Toro!!

Post by Pharmabro » Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:39 pm

Bil522 wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:48 pm
D-train wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:44 pm
He had 3.1 WAR in less than 500 PAs. More like a 4 WAR guy for a full season.
Not dissing the trade....but Wong sucked defensively last year and will regress offensively because of T-Mobil
There was a blurb about Wong having issues with his legs last year
and
Winker with the neck/back

Wong had more errors 17 last year than the previous 3 combined

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Re: M's get Wong for Winker and Toro!!

Post by Seattle or Bust » Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:41 pm

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Re: M's get Wong for Winker and Toro!!

Post by Sexymarinersfan » Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:49 pm

D-train wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:42 pm
bpj wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:31 pm
Dipoto just loves these trades where he can throw in a guy like Toro who was a flop from another trade.

Now he can say that trading Graveman helped get us Wong.
:lol:

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Re: M's get Wong for Winker and Toro!!

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