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Re: Get woke go broke

Post by auroraave » Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:00 pm

DanielVogelbach wrote:
Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:01 am
I agree 100% that much of it is implemented via follow the leader. For the minions of the system, they might very well be focused on money or fame. But, when analyzing the dark forces influencing reality, "It's about the money" is a first grade explanation. The people that control what you see and hear don't need money. They already control the central banks and the governments under a one world system of control. They also control the media and use it to push various themes and agendas.

But, on top of pushing agendas, there's simply the concept of taking something people love and destroying it. Weaving woke themes into beloved franchises is a sure-fire way to make something bad on purpose. If it just happened once or twice, then maybe it's a mistake. But, it's over and over and over again. They know exactly how this crap will be received by audiences. It's not content made bad by mistake. It's being made bad on purpose.

I gotta give credit to Matt at QOC for going hard on the "bad on purpose" topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tymDmu2gy18&t=29s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HXMGIBshrs&t=1502s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLALaneYZkY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Xx86vfY1I
You still have not answered my question - what is the agenda? What is tha goal? What is the plan? Who are the people involved - and be specific - names, etc. Also, how do you explain Avatar? Over a billion at the box office - nothing woke about it - and it's a Disney release. Is Iger and "the aganda" furious over this failure? I have no idea who matt is or QOC and I donlt care - how do you know he doesn't have an agenda - like appealing to a specific niche audience to MAKE MONEY?

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Re: Get woke go broke

Post by ddraig » Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:07 pm

I would explain Avatar this way. Special Effects. That's what people pay for now. Plot? Who cares? I went to see Avatar 1 and hated it. Far too preachy and there really wasn't much of a plot other than "Big Business, bad, Environmentalists, good!" I presume Avartar 2 is the same, so I don't go.

I've seen the live action Beauty and the Beast but was not impressed by the "in your face" LGBTQ aspect of it. Because of that, the newer, live action Cinderella was a no-go. Somehow I think a Fairy Godmother really shouldn't be a "fairy," if you'll pardon the use of the word. Will the newer wokeness of Disney affect the bottom line? Sometimes it will. If they put out stuff to the general public that is based upon wokeness, then the product will suffer. If wokeness is incidental to the plot and NOT the focus, then it doesn't matter much.

When my daughter was growing up, we watched a lot of Disney programming because it was "safe" for kids. Now? Not so much. And besides, much of the programming on TV for kids has the on screen "children" doing bizarre things and the adults acting stupid. I won't let my granddaughter watch that crap!

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Re: Get woke go broke

Post by DanielVogelbach » Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:40 pm

ddraig wrote:
Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:07 pm
I would explain Avatar this way. Special Effects. That's what people pay for now. Plot? Who cares? I went to see Avatar 1 and hated it. Far too preachy and there really wasn't much of a plot other than "Big Business, bad, Environmentalists, good!" I presume Avartar 2 is the same, so I don't go.

I've seen the live action Beauty and the Beast but was not impressed by the "in your face" LGBTQ aspect of it. Because of that, the newer, live action Cinderella was a no-go. Somehow I think a Fairy Godmother really shouldn't be a "fairy," if you'll pardon the use of the word. Will the newer wokeness of Disney affect the bottom line? Sometimes it will. If they put out stuff to the general public that is based upon wokeness, then the product will suffer. If wokeness is incidental to the plot and NOT the focus, then it doesn't matter much.

When my daughter was growing up, we watched a lot of Disney programming because it was "safe" for kids. Now? Not so much. And besides, much of the programming on TV for kids has the on screen "children" doing bizarre things and the adults acting stupid. I won't let my granddaughter watch that crap!
Disney definitely has a creepy element to it. I think Disney makes a lot of kids into stars like Britney Spears, Miley Cyrus, Justin Timberlake. Any media company with that much power can't be trusted.

I think you're right that their product was originally more wholesome. That's probably part of the gameplan. Start with a wholesome product until you've pretty much got every parent and kid locked in. Regardless of what's being presented, I think it's best to get the kids outside in nature, learning things, and off the television "programming". Some of the stuff might not even have negative themes, but it's just mindless entertainment and getting the kids addicted to watching television.

I think there's two things going on with regards to content. #1 - They weave in agendas. This can be nationalism. I've learned that the US government will let film studios use their military bases, planes, aircraft carriers, equipment, etc. free of charge provided that they approve of the script. So, a lot of Hollywood is military recruitment and nationalist propaganda. Other basic themes are cop = hero, FBI = hero. There's general fear mongering. When people are in fear, they're easier to control. There was also a ton of virus outbreak movies leading up to the Covid plandemic. Now we have the woke themes, which are designed to create division as well as usher in an age of transhumanism. All of these themes, though, can be woven into a great movie or a terrible movie. I never watch movies, but I heard the new Top Gun was good, so I checked it out. It was full of propaganda, but it was also a great movie.

#2 is making the content bad on purpose. They can use woke themes to accomplish this, but it really doesn't matter how they do it. It's definitely possible to turn profits making garbage content. The key is to make the product bad, but not so bad that people completely lose interest. My point earlier was that making profits is not the high level goal of people who are really pushing the buttons and pulling the levers. They already rule the world, so they're not worrying about making a buck. But for some reason, the script is to take something that people love and completely destroy it.

It's pretty obvious that fans never asked for LGBTQ Beauty and the Beast. If the name of the game was maxing out profits, they would cater to the fans. Not every movie will be a smash it. But, with some of this stuff it's obvious that everyone knew it was going to be a disaster before it was produced. I'm not a Star Wars guy, but I've heard that these recent movies are terrible, and that anybody with a brain could've reviewed the scripts and said, no, stop, we are Disney, we need to put out a good product. That company is so powerful. They have access to the greatest writers and creative minds. They could've stopped the garbage content from getting out the door. They knew those movies sucked, and they still put them out. They ruined Star Wars on purpose.

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Re: Get woke go broke

Post by auroraave » Fri Jan 20, 2023 1:57 pm

DanielVogelbach wrote:
Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:40 pm
ddraig wrote:
Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:07 pm
I would explain Avatar this way. Special Effects. That's what people pay for now. Plot? Who cares? I went to see Avatar 1 and hated it. Far too preachy and there really wasn't much of a plot other than "Big Business, bad, Environmentalists, good!" I presume Avartar 2 is the same, so I don't go.

I've seen the live action Beauty and the Beast but was not impressed by the "in your face" LGBTQ aspect of it. Because of that, the newer, live action Cinderella was a no-go. Somehow I think a Fairy Godmother really shouldn't be a "fairy," if you'll pardon the use of the word. Will the newer wokeness of Disney affect the bottom line? Sometimes it will. If they put out stuff to the general public that is based upon wokeness, then the product will suffer. If wokeness is incidental to the plot and NOT the focus, then it doesn't matter much.

When my daughter was growing up, we watched a lot of Disney programming because it was "safe" for kids. Now? Not so much. And besides, much of the programming on TV for kids has the on screen "children" doing bizarre things and the adults acting stupid. I won't let my granddaughter watch that crap!
Disney definitely has a creepy element to it. I think Disney makes a lot of kids into stars like Britney Spears, Miley Cyrus, Justin Timberlake. Any media company with that much power can't be trusted.

I think you're right that their product was originally more wholesome. That's probably part of the gameplan. Start with a wholesome product until you've pretty much got every parent and kid locked in. Regardless of what's being presented, I think it's best to get the kids outside in nature, learning things, and off the television "programming". Some of the stuff might not even have negative themes, but it's just mindless entertainment and getting the kids addicted to watching television.

I think there's two things going on with regards to content. #1 - They weave in agendas. This can be nationalism. I've learned that the US government will let film studios use their military bases, planes, aircraft carriers, equipment, etc. free of charge provided that they approve of the script. So, a lot of Hollywood is military recruitment and nationalist propaganda. Other basic themes are cop = hero, FBI = hero. There's general fear mongering. When people are in fear, they're easier to control. There was also a ton of virus outbreak movies leading up to the Covid plandemic. Now we have the woke themes, which are designed to create division as well as usher in an age of transhumanism. All of these themes, though, can be woven into a great movie or a terrible movie. I never watch movies, but I heard the new Top Gun was good, so I checked it out. It was full of propaganda, but it was also a great movie.

#2 is making the content bad on purpose. They can use woke themes to accomplish this, but it really doesn't matter how they do it. It's definitely possible to turn profits making garbage content. The key is to make the product bad, but not so bad that people completely lose interest. My point earlier was that making profits is not the high level goal of people who are really pushing the buttons and pulling the levers. They already rule the world, so they're not worrying about making a buck. But for some reason, the script is to take something that people love and completely destroy it.

It's pretty obvious that fans never asked for LGBTQ Beauty and the Beast. If the name of the game was maxing out profits, they would cater to the fans. Not every movie will be a smash it. But, with some of this stuff it's obvious that everyone knew it was going to be a disaster before it was produced. I'm not a Star Wars guy, but I've heard that these recent movies are terrible, and that anybody with a brain could've reviewed the scripts and said, no, stop, we are Disney, we need to put out a good product. That company is so powerful. They have access to the greatest writers and creative minds. They could've stopped the garbage content from getting out the door. They knew those movies sucked, and they still put them out. They ruined Star Wars on purpose.
This is the third time I've asked you. It's curious you refuse to answer.
You still have not answered my question - what is the agenda? What is tha goal? What is the plan? Who are the people involved - and be specific - names, etc. Also, how do you explain Avatar? Over a billion at the box office - nothing woke about it - and it's a Disney release. Is Iger and "the aganda" furious over this failure? I have no idea who matt is or QOC and I donlt care - how do you know he doesn't have an agenda - like appealing to a specific niche audience to MAKE MONEY?
Again - you have no idea how a movie gets made - zero. Disney 100% ruined Star Wars - they did it through the over exploitation of a property they paid 2 billion for - that's what Disney does - buy a property and exploit it across all possible platforms to maximize all potential revenue streams - film, streaming, theme parks, merchandising, etc. They do that because it is their BUSINESS MODEL. You also have no idea that they don't start with a script - they start with a release date and work towards that - it's called long range planning. By the time production starts, the scripts aren't always finished and it's a mad scramble to finish it - it's a f*cking shit show. The pay a top writer a million five for two weeks work hoping to get a workable script. THAT'S why the scripts and movies suck. But you don't know any of this and draw these fantastic conclusions that are utterly ridiculous that they are intentionally ruining it - no they are exploiting it for every thing they can - and they could care less if they are good - they just have to meet THE RELEASE DATE.

That's how disney operates. They ruined it through sheer greed - nothing more. Oh, they are now in negotiations for the next writer for the installment - tentatively called Jedi Down. The writer isn't woke he's a fantastic novelist and has written some monster hits and tv shows.

But I am sure you know more than I do about all of this because some loony website told you - a website that is using your clicks to make money.

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Re: Get woke go broke

Post by DanielVogelbach » Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:34 am

It's naive to think everything is "about the money" whether talking about Hollywood or any other aspect of reality.

Meeting deadlines is a hilarious explanation for the garbage content being produced. You could pull a bunch of kids out of a sixth grade class and give them one day and they could storyboard a better plot than the bullshit we get.

It's premediated. Bad on purpose. It's obvious the agenda is far more important than profits.

They knew from the jump that nobody wants the woke themes in movies. But, even if you give them the benefit of the doubt, then why didn't they ever reverse direction when the fan response was so negative? That's certainly not consistent with trying to maximize profits. This shit has been going on for a decade. The content is made bad on purpose, and wokism is simply the scapegoat.
auroraave wrote:
Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:00 pm
You still have not answered my question - what is the agenda? What is tha goal? What is the plan? Who are the people involved - and be specific - names, etc. Also, how do you explain Avatar? Over a billion at the box office - nothing woke about it - and it's a Disney release. Is Iger and "the aganda" furious over this failure? I have no idea who matt is or QOC and I donlt care - how do you know he doesn't have an agenda - like appealing to a specific niche audience to MAKE MONEY?

#1 - I don't have to solve the murder to know someone got killed. This is a classic thing that happens when you expose truth to people with cognitive dissonance. If you can't take them to the last scene in the movie and explain every detail, then somehow they think that invalidates your argument. Furthermore, I choose not to play the endless police lineup whodunnit find the bad guy game. I just kind of recognize the general evil at play and then move on with my business. But, I do firmly believe that anyone with real power is not on television. They aren't the face of a corporation. They're in the shadows, and they don't need money. They control the worldwide financial system. They fabricate wars. They control minds via government schools and all forms of media including Hollyweird. That being said, I also think that much of the good and evil in this reality comes from non-human, supernatural forces. So, it's possible for agendas to move forward without anyone necessarily being "in on it". It's more as if people take a download and start implementing evil. This all gets pretty deep and is kind of beyond the scope of simply realizing that movies are made bad on purpose.

I know there are people who spend all their time diving into the secret societies and occult rituals, etc. That's not really my thing. I think that's kind of a waste of time and another way the system tries to distract you. I'm just good at recognizing scams, fraud, deceit, tricks, etc. As far as the goal of content made bad on purpose, I think it has to do with how it impacts people's thoughts and emotions. People LOVED Star Wars, and they intentionally destroyed it. You might think of it similar to the Covid face coverings or getting rid of the boys and girls toy aisles. Not based on supply and demand. Not based on customer preference. Purely agenda.

#2 - Not every single piece of content put out is going to further the agenda. There's also the concept of putting something good out every once in a while just to make it less obvious what is happening.

#3 - Avatar is right up the transhumanism alley. Merging technology with the human. This is a often talked about as a major part of the elite's agenda.

#4 - I've been listening to Matt for about three years. His main thing is exposing the fraud of the world. I like him a lot, because he gets into some really deep topics, but he's also hilarious and always making me laugh. Movies being made bad on purpose is just one of hundreds of topics he's covered since I started listening to him. He's not doing anything for the money, which is obvious if you listen to him and part of what makes him so much fun to listen to. He's just feeding his cats and putting out truth videos. He's great. He's on YouTube with his Quantum of Conscience channel, and he's also on www.Freevoice.io. Typically, you don't have to watch the video, so you can listen while driving or doing other things.

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