Walla Walla Dawg II wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2023 10:28 pm
DanielVogelbach wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2023 9:13 pm
gil wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 7:37 pm
I'm probably making the same argument again, but ... with no government, how do you provide national defense? I like the free market and defend it all the time, but I feel it has limits. The coordination to provide national defense is costly, and there is a huge "free rider" problem with national defense that a free market could not solve. If a free market could do these things, please inform me how.
You have to rid yourself of the cultist brainwashing. There is no such thing as rulers that work for you. Your "government" works against you. It's a system of slavery and extraction.
The free market can provide both security and protection. Governments don't provide you with safety and order. Only a brainwashed person would view "government" as some sort of benevolent entity.
Government = rule by force. There is nothing moral about it.
Getting super deep, the countries themselves are all franchises of the same company. It's a one world system. Wars are staged, and one of the results is that people think they need "government" to protect them from the other bad guys. News flash, the bad guys are fabricated. North Korea is owned by the same people that own China and the USA. Then, they pump a bunch of propaganda down your throat via the media that they control, and you think that your "country" is protecting you. Nope, your "country" is enslaving you.
With rule by force, there will be nothing but anarchy.
I've asked this before, but you never answered.....
Who the fuck will provide clean water
Who will ensure these "rules society will accept" will be enforced
Who will ensure the security of this [once] great nation
Many more if you look back a page, but it seems that you are the one that is brainwashed into believing we don't need government.
It's a binary thing. Either you support freedom, or you support slavery.
Government is a tool of control and extraction. It provides zero value. It certainly doesn't provide you with clean water.
Nothing beats freedom. Nothing achieves higher morality than freedom. Nothing provides goods and services like freedom. Government is not freedom. That's exactly why they put "freedom" in all of their propaganda. Making sense yet? It took me about two years to wrap my my head around the concept that "government" as a benevolent creator of value is some pie in the sky Santa Claus level mythology.
The free market is your best bet for security, which is why the rich surround themselves with private security. You could afford it, too, and you could voluntary join alliances and hire/fire security firms. You have to try and wrap your head around the scale of the extortion from property tax to sales tax to gasoline tax to income tax to capital gains tax plus the fact that they can print money at will.
Fear is the method of control. Each "country" is a franchise of the one world company. Each country indoctrinates their youth to buy into the belief that their authority is legitimate and moral, when in fact each government is criminal by it's very nature. All taxation is theft. Nobody has a moral right to use force against someone else's consent if they are acting peacefully. Force can only be morally used in self defense. There is no legitimacy to statutory law. It's all based on the birth certificate contract legal fiction corporate maritime law system. The law of the land is simply do no harm aka natural law aka objective morality.
There is no such thing as "government". There is just people. Some are loving and kind. Some are evil assholes. The best way to combat the evil assholes is to get rid of "government". If you breathe life into these systems of authority, then you are enslaving yourself. Deciding whether a Democrat or Republican should rule over you is foolish. The system doesn't care as long as you view the positions of authority as legitimate. But, they're not legitimate. Nobody has a right to tax you. Force you to go to school. Force you to obtain a license to cut hair, etc.
Nobody has the right to rule over anyone else without their consent. The Constitution is just a piece of paper. I can go scribble "We the People" on some nice quality paper, that doesn't mean I'm legitimately representing anyone.
Statism is a worldwide cult.
All human interaction should be voluntary. People can morally create and enforce rules. People can morally associate and form groups. But, government is not moral, because it's imposed through force and without consent. It's a contract between the citizen and the state, but the citizen was coerced into the contract. It's invalid, immoral, and illegitimate. They steal everyone's wealth. All of the so-called "services" provided are just free market services provided at 100x the cost and 1% of the quality.
Peace, Love, Anarchy!
