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Seahawks are 2nd in red zone offense, 7th in red zone defense. They are 14th in 3rd down% on offense, 6th in 3rd down% on defense.
These are also important stats. Not just pt differential. Seattle winning some important battles.
Our non existent pass rush
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Courtesy of D-train:
Carroll’s fourth-down strategy was magnified again early this week after a 30-16 loss to Baltimore. With the score tied 13-13 in the third quarter, the Seahawks faced a fourth-and-three from the Ravens’ 35-yard line. Carroll sent out his field-goal team, a decision that decreased the Seahawks’ chances of winning the game by 4%, according to Pro Football Focus data.
Jason Myers missed the 53-yard field-goal attempt. Carroll explained that he wanted to take the points in that situation, and that he wanted to show “total confidence” in his kicker. So he goes with some intangible "showing confidence" in his kicker instead of tangible evidence to go for it. Further, his other consideration in that situation was to punt the ball — not to go for it with his offense.
“It was our spot, we’re kicking it — that’s what we do,” So you are kicking it because thats what we do. Ok I feel a lot better now.
Carroll told 710 ESPN Seattle on Monday. “Just, a great kicker and he’s going to come through for us. Except he didn't That’s the way our mentality’s going to be and there’s no reason for us to change.” So no reason to change it even though it failed and analytics tell you to go for it.
Compounding the frustration for many Seahawks fans was the manner in which the Ravens scored the go-ahead touchdown on their ensuing possession. It came, of course, on fourth down — and only after quarterback Lamar Jackson convinced coach John Harbaugh to go for it. On fourth-and-two from the Seattle 8, Jackson scored on a QB power run.
In a follow-up question this week about his fourth-down calculations, Carroll was asked if he considers data analysis as part of those decisions.
“Yes,” he said. “We’re well aware.” So you are well aware of it but you ignore it.
I'm not sure if Carroll is certifiably insane, or if he's just a delusional narcissist.
I think he's in for a big surprise this weekend against TB. Arians will have some kind of wrinkle and odds are good that Carroll won't have an answer for it.
Carroll’s fourth-down strategy was magnified again early this week after a 30-16 loss to Baltimore. With the score tied 13-13 in the third quarter, the Seahawks faced a fourth-and-three from the Ravens’ 35-yard line. Carroll sent out his field-goal team, a decision that decreased the Seahawks’ chances of winning the game by 4%, according to Pro Football Focus data.
Jason Myers missed the 53-yard field-goal attempt. Carroll explained that he wanted to take the points in that situation, and that he wanted to show “total confidence” in his kicker. So he goes with some intangible "showing confidence" in his kicker instead of tangible evidence to go for it. Further, his other consideration in that situation was to punt the ball — not to go for it with his offense.
“It was our spot, we’re kicking it — that’s what we do,” So you are kicking it because thats what we do. Ok I feel a lot better now.
Compounding the frustration for many Seahawks fans was the manner in which the Ravens scored the go-ahead touchdown on their ensuing possession. It came, of course, on fourth down — and only after quarterback Lamar Jackson convinced coach John Harbaugh to go for it. On fourth-and-two from the Seattle 8, Jackson scored on a QB power run.
In a follow-up question this week about his fourth-down calculations, Carroll was asked if he considers data analysis as part of those decisions.
“Yes,” he said. “We’re well aware.” So you are well aware of it but you ignore it.
I'm not sure if Carroll is certifiably insane, or if he's just a delusional narcissist.
I think he's in for a big surprise this weekend against TB. Arians will have some kind of wrinkle and odds are good that Carroll won't have an answer for it.
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Speaking of 'wrinkles'.....
When was the last time you saw a play on Seattle's offense that made you think....wow, that was a cool (or different, or pretty, or ingenious, or some other accolade.....) play or wrinkle versus something we can almost call out to our television sets based on the formation they are in?
Screens are non-existent, misdirection plays non-existent, the RPO virtually non-existent.
As we're all saying, it's not 2013 any longer with Marshawn Lynch or the league's best defense.....
Can Carroll adapt or change? You know what they say about old dogs.
When was the last time you saw a play on Seattle's offense that made you think....wow, that was a cool (or different, or pretty, or ingenious, or some other accolade.....) play or wrinkle versus something we can almost call out to our television sets based on the formation they are in?
Screens are non-existent, misdirection plays non-existent, the RPO virtually non-existent.
As we're all saying, it's not 2013 any longer with Marshawn Lynch or the league's best defense.....
Can Carroll adapt or change? You know what they say about old dogs.
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That fake jet sweep screen pass to Lockett was pretty cool. So was the tight formation on DK's second TD. They run RPOs quite a bit actually.XpertDBA wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:24 pmSpeaking of 'wrinkles'.....
When was the last time you saw a play on Seattle's offense that made you think....wow, that was a cool (or different, or pretty, or ingenious, or some other accolade.....) play or wrinkle versus something we can almost call out to our television sets based on the formation they are in?
Screens are non-existent, misdirection plays non-existent, the RPO virtually non-existent.
As we're all saying, it's not 2013 any longer with Marshawn Lynch or the league's best defense.....
Can Carroll adapt or change? You know what they say about old dogs.
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What exactly do you want to see?douche wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:55 pm
If you read what was written, it says, 'It's as if Carroll flat-out refuses...'
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the stubbornness in Carroll. Remember last year's wildcard game against DAL? Run, run, run, oops, we're out of time. Terrible time-clock management and what would appear to be a refusal to adapt. When DAL won't let you run on them the entire game, perhaps a different approach is in order.
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I like the miss-direction play action pass when RW fakes the hand off to a RB going left and rolls right. Seems he has all day to throw on those and must have about a 90% completion rate on them.ThePro wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:01 pmThat fake jet sweep screen pass to Lockett was pretty cool. So was the tight formation on DK's second TD. They run RPOs quite a bit actually.XpertDBA wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:24 pmSpeaking of 'wrinkles'.....
When was the last time you saw a play on Seattle's offense that made you think....wow, that was a cool (or different, or pretty, or ingenious, or some other accolade.....) play or wrinkle versus something we can almost call out to our television sets based on the formation they are in?
Screens are non-existent, misdirection plays non-existent, the RPO virtually non-existent.
As we're all saying, it's not 2013 any longer with Marshawn Lynch or the league's best defense.....
Can Carroll adapt or change? You know what they say about old dogs.
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Time will tell, I think the TB matchup will be a real test.XpertDBA wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:24 pmSpeaking of 'wrinkles'.....
When was the last time you saw a play on Seattle's offense that made you think....wow, that was a cool (or different, or pretty, or ingenious, or some other accolade.....) play or wrinkle versus something we can almost call out to our television sets based on the formation they are in?
Screens are non-existent, misdirection plays non-existent, the RPO virtually non-existent.
As we're all saying, it's not 2013 any longer with Marshawn Lynch or the league's best defense.....
Can Carroll adapt or change? You know what they say about old dogs.
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We signed Dekota Watson. Problem solved. So we are signing a guy off the street instead of using our first round pick more. sigh.
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Yeah, I do like that particular play and you're right. It always seems to break open down the field.D-train wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:16 pmI like the miss-direction play action pass when RW fakes the hand off to a RB going left and rolls right. Seems he has all day to throw on those and must have about a 90% completion rate on them.ThePro wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:01 pmThat fake jet sweep screen pass to Lockett was pretty cool. So was the tight formation on DK's second TD. They run RPOs quite a bit actually.XpertDBA wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:24 pmSpeaking of 'wrinkles'.....
When was the last time you saw a play on Seattle's offense that made you think....wow, that was a cool (or different, or pretty, or ingenious, or some other accolade.....) play or wrinkle versus something we can almost call out to our television sets based on the formation they are in?
Screens are non-existent, misdirection plays non-existent, the RPO virtually non-existent.
As we're all saying, it's not 2013 any longer with Marshawn Lynch or the league's best defense.....
Can Carroll adapt or change? You know what they say about old dogs.
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Better time clock-management. Better use of the challenge flag. Halftime adjustments. Quicker starts. Victories established beyond doubtThePro wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:03 pmWhat exactly do you want to see?douche wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:55 pm
If you read what was written, it says, 'It's as if Carroll flat-out refuses...'
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the stubbornness in Carroll. Remember last year's wildcard game against DAL? Run, run, run, oops, we're out of time. Terrible time-clock management and what would appear to be a refusal to adapt. When DAL won't let you run on them the entire game, perhaps a different approach is in order.
(yes, I know it's a lot to ask).
I really think the slow starts are going to catch up to them. This second half of the season will make the first 8 games look like a walk in the park.