The man that ruined college football

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Re: The man that ruined college football

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:50 am

Just seems like something been lost. Originally you had your student athlete. Athletics being part of developing a well rounded individual along with their studies. Conferences were set up to standardize rules and help with scheduling. It does seem to have shifted towards the making of money

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Re: The man that ruined college football

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:58 am

I did a quick Google of origin of athletic conferences to see if my opinion seemed valid. Now that's pretty wild. Went further than uniform rules, 18 deaths in 1904, could you imagine that today? I guess you could argue there has always been a preoccupation with college football, even before television contracts


The good old days
The NCAA, a member-led organization, was founded in 1906 to regulate the rules of college sport and protect young athletes.

At the start of the 20th century, mass formations and gang tackling gave football a reputation as a brutal sport. During the 1904 season alone, there were 18 deaths and 159 serious injuries on the field. At the college level, hired players not enrolled in school often filled out rosters. Some colleges and universities halted football on their campuses. The public outcry grew for the sport to be reformed or abolished.

In October 1905, President Theodore Roosevelt, a longtime football fan, called together athletics leaders from some of the top football schools — Harvard, Princeton and Yale — and urged them to clean up the game. As football deaths and injuries continued to mount during the 1905 season, New York University Chancellor Henry M. MacCracken convened a meeting of 13 schools in December to reform football playing rules. Soon after, on Dec. 28 in New York, 62 colleges and universities became charter members of the Intercollegiate Athletic Association of the United States, the precursor to the NCAA.

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Re: The man that ruined college football

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Re: The man that ruined college football

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Thu Aug 31, 2023 2:13 pm

90,000 people that don't have a life apparently. Or was the beer free?

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Re: The man that ruined college football

Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Thu Aug 31, 2023 2:25 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 2:13 pm
90,000 people that don't have a life apparently. Or was the beer free?
For the most part volleyball is a bunch of skinny women in short-shorts.
What's not to like about that?
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Re: The man that ruined college football

Post by D-train » Thu Aug 31, 2023 2:33 pm

Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 2:25 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 2:13 pm
90,000 people that don't have a life apparently. Or was the beer free?
For the most part volleyball is a bunch of skinny women in short-shorts.
What's not to like about that?
:lol:
Only thing better is beach volleyball where they swap the shorts for bikinis.
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Re: The man that ruined college football

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Re: The man that ruined college football

Post by Pharmabro » Wed Sep 06, 2023 3:02 am

D-train wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:13 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:26 am
It's the east coast isn't it?
Only two of 18 teams can be considered East Coast. There are now 4 on the West Coast. Huskies will probably have two road trips a year East of the Mississippi.

Last season these were the Huskies Road Games:

At UCLA: Can still do that
At Arizona St: Distance: 1,423 miles (Distance to Lincoln Nebraska: 1,666 miles) +243 miles
At Cal: Distance 798 miles (Distance to LA to play USC: 1,136 miles) +338 miles
At Oregon: Can still do that
At WSU: Distance 285 miles (Distance to Minneapolis: 1656) +1371

So in 3 months they would travel an extra 1952 miles or spend about 3.5 extra hours on an airplane on the internet or watching movies or playing video games. God God! :lol:

https://sportleaguemaps.com/ncaa/big-ten/
Saying the longest trip in the Pac is similar to the shortest trip in the BIG is a little dishonest. How about the Maryland trip?
And
The hours put in for the other sports. The Oregon softball player complaining about the extra hours. But, on the other hand I don't feel real bad because if you look at most schools if the men have 9 sports the girls have 10. And it is obvious that men's basketball and football pays for most of that.

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Re: The man that ruined college football

Post by D-train » Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:56 pm

Pharmabro wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 3:02 am
D-train wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:13 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:26 am
It's the east coast isn't it?
Only two of 18 teams can be considered East Coast. There are now 4 on the West Coast. Huskies will probably have two road trips a year East of the Mississippi.

Last season these were the Huskies Road Games:

At UCLA: Can still do that
At Arizona St: Distance: 1,423 miles (Distance to Lincoln Nebraska: 1,666 miles) +243 miles
At Cal: Distance 798 miles (Distance to LA to play USC: 1,136 miles) +338 miles
At Oregon: Can still do that
At WSU: Distance 285 miles (Distance to Minneapolis: 1656) +1371

So in 3 months they would travel an extra 1952 miles or spend about 3.5 extra hours on an airplane on the internet or watching movies or playing video games. God God! :lol:

https://sportleaguemaps.com/ncaa/big-ten/
Saying the longest trip in the Pac is similar to the shortest trip in the BIG is a little dishonest. How about the Maryland trip?
And
The hours put in for the other sports. The Oregon softball player complaining about the extra hours. But, on the other hand I don't feel real bad because if you look at most schools if the men have 9 sports the girls have 10. And it is obvious that men's basketball and football pays for most of that.
There are going to be 18 teams in the Big 10 so you only play half every season so only 4-5 road trips for conference games a year. IF they play east coast teams as much as the Midwest teams (HIGHLY unlikely) that would be ONE trip to Maryland in a players entire four year career.

The flight time to Baltimore is 5 hours even. Flight time to Tucson is 3 hours and 5 minutes. So 1 hour and 55 minutes longer on a plane once every four years. But the time spent getting to the airport and being at the airport is the same so really it is more like 7.5 hours vs. 5.5 hours. Silly even to bring it up as an issue.
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Re: The man that ruined college football

Post by D-train » Wed Sep 06, 2023 1:31 pm

So maybe 2-3 trips East of the Mississippi a year for the Huskies.

OTOH The Hawks go to Detroit, New Jersey, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Dallas, Arizona and Nashville, SEVEN long trips.....
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