2023 Week 8: UW Football - Arizona State

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2023 Week 8: UW Football - Arizona State

Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:04 pm

Wow, Wow, Wow!!!

What an "instant classic" it was called last weekend.

The Whoregon coach [still] biting off more than the team can handle, then when the going gets tough, the QB isn't as sharp and the place kicker fails the team. No I don't really believe that, but I hate Whoregon.

This week.....ASU.

If you all remember last season we went to ASU with an injured defense, 5 starters out, but we found out what we had for an offense.

Current line is middle 20's....will they cover.

Prediction later.

GO DAWGS!!

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Re: 2023 Week 8: UW Football - Arizona State

Post by D-train » Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:45 pm

Damn Sam where the hell have you been. Did you go on a 3.5 day bender after the game and are just resurfacing now??? lol
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Re: 2023 Week 8: UW Football - Arizona State

Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:48 am

D-train wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:45 pm
Damn Sam where the hell have you been. Did you go on a 3.5 day bender after the game and are just resurfacing now??? lol
Sam who?

IF me, then I've been very busy...and loving it.
I see a new car in my near future.

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Re: 2023 Week 8: UW Football - Arizona State

Post by D-train » Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:38 pm

By Jon Wilner
Bay Area News Group
The game of the year in the Pac-12 has come and gone. What’s next for Washington and Oregon?

This is what’s next: Both teams are heavy favorites at home this week, with UW hosting Arizona State and Oregon welcoming Washington State.

Will they execute as expected? Or are the Huskies and Ducks destined to spend the weekend in Letdown City after their taxing affair a few days ago?

For context, the Hotline tracked how the bitter rivals have fared historically in the game immediately after their annual showdown.

We checked two decades of point spreads and final scores and learned the following:

— Oregon is 15-4 straight up the game after playing UW.

— Washington is 4-15 immediately after facing Oregon.

The discrepancy in success makes some sense. For many of those 19 seasons — the teams didn’t play each other in 2020 — the Ducks had a powerhouse team and the Huskies were, at best, mediocre.

For that reason, we also examined how the teams performed against the point spread, because oddsmakers take into account the quality of each team when setting the weekly lines.

In that regard, as well, Oregon has outperformed UW.

— The Ducks are 10-8-1 against the spread in the game after playing Washington.

— The Huskies are 6-13 against the number after facing Oregon.

UW’s recent post-Oregon history includes a 2021 date with the team it plays this week, Arizona State. In 2021, the Huskies were six-point home underdogs against ASU and managed to cover the spread in a 35-30 loss.

Meanwhile, the Ducks have played this weekend’s opponent, Washington State, three times in the past five years immediately after facing Washington. Oregon pushed in 2021 and failed to cover the spread against WSU in both 2018-19.

Overall, Oregon is 5-0-1 against the spread this season, while Washington is 3-2-1.

To the picks …

Last week: 3-2-1
Season: 23-22-1
Five-star special: 5-2

All picks against the spread

Idle: Arizona, Cal, Colorado and Oregon State

Washington State at Oregon
Kickoff: 12:30 p.m. on ABC
Line: Oregon -20 (total: 62.5)
Comment: The Ducks have won four in a row in the series, including a three-point thriller last year in Pullman. This looked like a high-level matchup until WSU dropped its past two games, to UCLA and Arizona, and looked bad in both. The offense has stalled out, with quarterback Cam Ward in a deep funk. Unless the Cougars find their September mojo, they stand little chance against Oregon’s balanced attack and talent at the line of scrimmage. Ward will be on the run all afternoon, with the Cougars playing from behind … far behind.
Pick: Oregon

Utah at USC
Kickoff: 5 p.m. on FOX
Line: USC -7 (total: 56)
Comment: The latest installment of what has become a terrific series is also the last scheduled meeting between the former South division rivals. The Utes mastered USC twice last season, but the dynamics have changed on Utah’s end with the prolonged absence of injured quarterback Cam Rising. The Trojans are essentially the same team as last year, with a prolific offense and turnstile defense. Are the Utes equipped to take advantage, control the clock and wear down USC’s front seven? We’re skeptical that they can score frequently enough to keep pace — and that their defense can hold off USC quarterback Caleb Williams in the second half.
Pick: USC

UCLA at Stanford
Kickoff: 7:30 p.m. on ESPN
Line: UCLA -17 (total: 53.5)
Comment: The Bruins have not played well on the road, with losses at Utah and Oregon State that featured erratic performances by freshman quarterback Dante Moore (43% completions, four interceptions). Granted, Stanford’s defense isn’t as stout as those found in Salt Lake City and Corvallis. But the Cardinal have a handful of disrupters and, more importantly, discovered a quarterback and momentum during the historic 29-point comeback at Colorado last week. UCLA should prevail, but that feels like a few points too many.
Pick: Stanford

Arizona State at Washington
Kickoff: 7:30 p.m. on FS1
Line: Washington -26.5 (total: 58.5)
Comment: Easy to envision a slow start by the Huskies and some trick plays from Arizona State, which had two weeks to prepare. Eventually, UW should find its rhythm and take charge, but that shift could be too late to cover what’s effectively a four-touchdown betting line. Of note: ASU has won 13 of the past 15 matchups, with a few wins coming as a significant underdog — like last season, when the Sun Devils won outright as a 13-point underdog.
Pick: Arizona State


Straight-up winners: Oregon, USC, UCLA and Washington

Five-star special: Stanford. In what should be a relatively low-scoring affair, 17 points feels like 20. And that’s too much for our liking.
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Re: 2023 Week 8: UW Football - Arizona State

Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:34 pm

A 27 point spread is huge....but I think we could do it, but wont.

Penix will most likely be sitting by the end of the 3rd with Morris [the clumsy cat] coming in for the 4th quarter.

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Re: 2023 Week 8: UW Football - Arizona State

Post by D-train » Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:01 pm

Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:34 pm
A 27 point spread is huge....but I think we could do it, but wont.

Penix will most likely be sitting by the end of the 3rd with Morris [the clumsy cat] coming in for the 4th quarter.
The Clumsy cat. lol

I want to see something like 23-27 377 yards 5 TDs and 0 INTs out of Penix then he can rest in the 4th Quarter....
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Re: 2023 Week 8: UW Football - Arizona State

Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:13 pm

I think he will have over 400 yards with more passes and completions and completions over 20 yards. The 5 TD's seems pretty good.

The only way they cover the spread is if Morris can get a TD of his own along with putting them in position to attempt a FG.

The way I see it, ASU will have 14 points in garbage time.
Garbage time this game will be the entire 4th quarter and part of the 3rd.
And very few starters will be playing in garbage time, but ASU will still have their starters in because they need the reps.

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Re: 2023 Week 8: UW Football - Arizona State

Post by D-train » Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:16 pm

Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:13 pm
I think he will have over 400 yards with more passes and completions and completions over 20 yards. The 5 TD's seems pretty good.

The only way they cover the spread is if Morris can get a TD of his own along with putting them in position to attempt a FG.

The way I see it, ASU will have 14 points in garbage time.
Garbage time this game will be the entire 4th quarter and part of the 3rd.
And very few starters will be playing in garbage time, but ASU will still have their starters in because they need the reps.
I will be good Sunday morning Breakfast viewing. :)
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Re: 2023 Week 8: UW Football - Arizona State

Post by Captain 97 » Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:21 pm

The line seems about right to me. They have played two decent teams. Fresno State beat them 29-0 and USC beat them 42-28. I am going to guess 49-20 Dawgs. Definitely taking the over on a 58.5.

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Re: 2023 Week 8: UW Football - Arizona State

Post by Michael K. » Thu Oct 19, 2023 5:43 pm

Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:13 pm

And very few starters will be playing in garbage time, but ASU will still have their starters in because they need the reps.
Do you remember the COVID season when we were KILLING Arizona, and pulled everyone. Sumlin, a TERRIBLE coach, kept his entire team in, and they danced and partied all fourth quarter as if they were accomplishing something. It was 37 to 0 after 3 quarters. Arizona scored 27 4th quarter points against our JV, and seriously? Danced around as if losing 44 to 27 was something cool.

I couldn't believe he didn't let his second and third units play. Don't they deserve to play in garbage time after practicing all year long?

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