Seahawks vs Cardinals game thread

[57reasons]

Defense was good at all three levels, but especially the secondary and linebackers. K-9 good, receivers good, even minus the diva starter. OLine good, particularly with all the injuries and two rookies starting. Geno mostly good (all but two horrific throws plus a fumble). All in all not bad, but let's not kid ourselves - that has to be the WORST roster in the league they were playing - I mean if i'm starting a franchise what if ANY pieces do you want from that team? maybe Budda Baker, Marquis Brown and Humphries (the LT who got ejected - notice when Taylor all of a sudden became a pass rusher again), and McBride the tight end/high hurdler, that's it.

[D-train]

Really striking how similar this game was to the Husky game. Of course there was no let down for the Hawks after a huge win but they sure played like it at times.

1. Multiple costly penalties and turnovers
2. 2 1-5 teams from the Phoenix area
3. Struggled on offense and settle for FGs in the red zone
4. Visitor actually had the lead deep in the game
5. Scratched out a win vs. a vastly inferior opponent
6. Low scoring affair
7. Defenses came up huge with giving up only 17 combined points.

[D-train]

So hilarious to me that people actually believe that Goodell who makes about $65M spends a significant amount of his work week analyzing which teams he wants to win and lose and then he or his henchman reach out to officials using secret means of communication that can't be traced to tell them which teams to make bad calls for and against while jeopardizing a business with $12 billion in revenues. Makes some of the political conspiracy theories seems reasonable.

[trharder]

So hilarious to me that people actually believe that Goodell who makes about $65M spends a significant amount of his work week analyzing which teams he wants to win and lose and then he or his henchman reach out to officials using secret means of communication that can't be traced to tell them which teams to make bad calls for and against while jeopardizing a business with $12 billion in revenues. Makes some of the political conspiracy theories seems reasonable.
]https://twitter.com/mike_aka_iceman/sta ... 3350458705

First of all, Goodell is a world-class douchebag and deserves all criticism, warranted and imagined.
Secondly, Football fans have immunity from criticism for being passionately biased and or illogical.
Teams, players and media can police their own shit all they want, but without fans, there's no league, no money.
If you are too tender as a player or media person to hear outlandish fandom, stay off social media.

[D-train]

So hilarious to me that people actually believe that Goodell who makes about $65M spends a significant amount of his work week analyzing which teams he wants to win and lose and then he or his henchman reach out to officials using secret means of communication that can't be traced to tell them which teams to make bad calls for and against while jeopardizing a business with $12 billion in revenues. Makes some of the political conspiracy theories seems reasonable.
]https://twitter.com/mike_aka_iceman/sta ... 3350458705

First of all, Goodell is a world-class douchebag and deserves all criticism, warranted and imagined.
Secondly, Football fans have immunity from criticism for being passionately biased and or illogical.
Teams, players and media can police their own shit all they want, but without fans, there's no league, no money.
If you are too tender as a player or media person to hear outlandish fandom, stay off social media.

I am VERY passionate but also rational enough to realize a league isn't going to jeopardize $12B in revenue and all credibility for some imagined desire to get one team to win over another for no apparent reason.

There are good officials and bad officials. The good ones make a few bad calls and bad ones make a lot just like any sport. If this was actually happen there would a whistle blower and book deal for millions.

[D-train]

Holy Bobo!

[Michael K.]

Really striking how similar this game was to the Husky game. Of course there was no let down for the Hawks after a huge win but they sure played like it at times.

1. Multiple costly penalties and turnovers
2. 2 1-5 teams from the Phoenix area
3. Struggled on offense and settle for FGs in the red zone
4. Visitor actually had the lead deep in the game
5. Scratched out a win vs. a vastly inferior opponent
6. Low scoring affair
7. Defenses came up huge with giving up only 17 combined points.

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No. 5 Huskies overcome offensive miscues to remain undefeated

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I thought the exact same thing when the two emails above arrived to me one day apart! The actually only changed miscues with mistakes!

[auroraave]

So hilarious to me that people actually believe that Goodell who makes about $65M spends a significant amount of his work week analyzing which teams he wants to win and lose and then he or his henchman reach out to officials using secret means of communication that can't be traced to tell them which teams to make bad calls for and against while jeopardizing a business with $12 billion in revenues. Makes some of the political conspiracy theories seems reasonable.
]https://twitter.com/mike_aka_iceman/sta ... 3350458705

First of all, Goodell is a world-class douchebag and deserves all criticism, warranted and imagined.
Secondly, Football fans have immunity from criticism for being passionately biased and or illogical.
Teams, players and media can police their own shit all they want, but without fans, there's no league, no money.
If you are too tender as a player or media person to hear outlandish fandom, stay off social media.

I am VERY passionate but also rational enough to realize a league isn't going to jeopardize $12B in revenue and all credibility for some imagined desire to get one team to win over another for no apparent reason.

There are good officials and bad officials. The good ones make a few bad calls and bad ones make a lot just like any sport. If this was actually happen there would a whistle blower and book deal for millions.

How do you explain the Seahawks Steelers SB? Officiating was so blatantly lopsided a ref came out and apologized. Everyone said that game was rigged - even steeler fans.
This nonsense that refs would "come out and write a book'' is legally prohibited by signing NDA's. They would get prosecuted for breach.
You are manufacturing this over the top "CIA spy" scenario to discredit people who question this stuff - and they should questions this stuff, like how people questioned covid coverage or Iraq or UIkraine. You are ignoring the elephant in the room: refs are clearly dictating outcomes and they have for some time now, it's not a conspiracy theory, it's obvious and blatant. Draw your own conclusions, but suggesting game influencing/rigging is impossible while ignoring the Seattle SB jobbing and the fact the NFL is an 'entertainment league" and is all about advertising, marketing, storylines, money and gambling, not fandom of the sport of football, seems foolish. I question everything. Why would you NOT? Rigging has been going on forever in sports, why is the NFL somehow above that? Tim Donoghey pointed out exactly how the NBA was influencing games via the refs - pregame meetings they would get thier marching orders about what calls to emphasize, etc. Rememeber the phoenix suns shooting 67 free throws against the sonics in the Conference finals - so the NBA conveniently got thier barkley/Jordan match up? Jesus, it's clear there is influence happening. It's 2023, if you aren't questioning everything you are being told, you have your head in the sand. Lakers/Kings, Lakers/Blazers, Saints/Lambs. The list goes on and on and on and on and on...

[D-train]

First of all, Goodell is a world-class douchebag and deserves all criticism, warranted and imagined.
Secondly, Football fans have immunity from criticism for being passionately biased and or illogical.
Teams, players and media can police their own shit all they want, but without fans, there's no league, no money.
If you are too tender as a player or media person to hear outlandish fandom, stay off social media.

I am VERY passionate but also rational enough to realize a league isn't going to jeopardize $12B in revenue and all credibility for some imagined desire to get one team to win over another for no apparent reason.

There are good officials and bad officials. The good ones make a few bad calls and bad ones make a lot just like any sport. If this was actually happen there would a whistle blower and book deal for millions.

How do you explain the Seahawks Steelers SB? Officiating was so blatantly lopsided a ref came out and apologized. Everyone said that game was rigged - even steeler fans.
This nonsense that refs would "come out and write a book'' is legally prohibited by signing NDA's. They would get prosecuted for breach.
You are manufacturing this over the top "CIA spy" scenario to discredit people who question this stuff - and they should questions this stuff, like how people questioned covid coverage or Iraq or UIkraine. You are ignoring the elephant in the room: refs are clearly dictating outcomes and they have for some time now, it's not a conspiracy theory, it's obvious and blatant. Draw your own conclusions, but suggesting game influencing/rigging is impossible while ignoring the Seattle SB jobbing and the fact the NFL is an 'entertainment league" and is all about advertising, marketing, storylines, money and gambling, not fandom of the sport of football, seems foolish. I question everything. Why would you NOT? Rigging has been going on forever in sports, why is the NFL somehow above that? Tim Donoghey pointed out exactly how the NBA was influencing games via the refs - pregame meetings theynwould get thier marching orders about what calls to emphasize, etc. Rememeber the phoenix suns shooting 67 free throws abains the sonics in the Conference finals - so the NBA conveniently got thier barkley/Jordan match up? Jesus, it's clear there is influence happening. It's 2023, if you aren't questioning everything you are being told, you have your head in the sand.

He apologized for the shit calls, there was zero admission it was rigged. How is that EVERY fan base thinks the Refs are against them??? Wouldn't about half be ok with getting all the calls in their favor???

Weird that several of books have been written by Officials ignoring those NDAs

https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=5 ... =931&dpr=1

I question the media because there is obvious media bias. The media has never even discussed this either to suggest it is happening or dismiss it so not relevant.

I question it but it because it makes zero sense that they would jeopardize $12 BILLION in revenues to influence games, I have dismissed it. What was the ridiculous notion about the Rams? They wanted them in the SB in LA that season. Why? Super Bowls are sold out and hundreds of millions watch the games no matter where they are played. That was FIVE YEARS ago and nothing came out of it other than it being about bad call so until something is finally proven then:

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[SeattleAddict]

How do you explain the Seahawks Steelers SB? Officiating was so blatantly lopsided a ref came out and apologized. Everyone said that game was rigged - even steeler fans.
This nonsense that refs would "come out and write a book'' is legally prohibited by signing NDA's. They would get prosecuted for breach.
You are manufacturing this over the top "CIA spy" scenario to discredit people who question this stuff - and they should questions this stuff, like how people questioned covid coverage or Iraq or UIkraine. You are ignoring the elephant in the room: refs are clearly dictating outcomes and they have for some time now, it's not a conspiracy theory, it's obvious and blatant. Draw your own conclusions, but suggesting game influencing/rigging is impossible while ignoring the Seattle SB jobbing and the fact the NFL is an 'entertainment league" and is all about advertising, marketing, storylines, money and gambling, not fandom of the sport of football, seems foolish. I question everything. Why would you NOT? Rigging has been going on forever in sports, why is the NFL somehow above that? Tim Donoghey pointed out exactly how the NBA was influencing games via the refs - pregame meetings they would get thier marching orders about what calls to emphasize, etc. Rememeber the phoenix suns shooting 67 free throws against the sonics in the Conference finals - so the NBA conveniently got thier barkley/Jordan match up? Jesus, it's clear there is influence happening. It's 2023, if you aren't questioning everything you are being told, you have your head in the sand. Lakers/Kings, Lakers/Blazers, Saints/Lambs. The list goes on and on and on and on and on...

Couple different things. What DT is saying is there is no organized conspiracy to fix random games. That doesn't mean there couldn't be individuals in particular games that are looking to change the outcome. Like the ref from Pittsburgh that just happened to call the OPI in the Seahawks/Stealers SB. I will go to my grave believing that game was rigged, and the "NFL wants Bettis to get a ring" theory actually seems plausible. It is also possible that it was mere incompetence combined with bad coincidence, but that would be a lot of coincidence.

Goodell is a certified 100% piece of shit, and it wouldn't surprise me even a tiny bit if he had a thumb on the scale with schedules, ref assignments, fines and suspensions, that sort of thing. But DT's point is the risk/reward to actually fixing games doesn't make sense. Getting caught in a scandal of that magnitude would cost billions.

The NBA is absolutely corrupt, though. They have fixed everything from games to series to drafts and relocations to OKC.