Servais Fired to be replaced by Dan Wilson

[Donn Beach]

Managers have a shelf life, they all get fired at some point. I think thimgs get stale. I dont think he was at the root of the problem but it had moved past him being able to deal with it. The new voice angle has valitity

[bpj]

The offense has been horrid AND SS isn't a good manager. So maybe it is a blessing in disguise that the offense was horrid because it got rid of him.

His mindless monkey brained handed obsession without even bothering to look at splits stats.

His bullpen management.

His decision not to walk Devers before his walk off hit.

His that's baseball, slow play, its a long season BS.

No fire.

But when I lost complete respect for him was when we had were up 2-0 in a 3 game series and before the game he proclaimed "its tough to sweep a team on the road". He then punted with a AAA lineup and then after the game proudly told the media that I told you so, its tough to sweep a team on the road.

Great points, I'm hoping there are no signs of punting from Dan.

The Mariners could have made the playoffs the year before they made the playoffs if they hadn't been playing like they were supposed to lose. "We're not ready yet" they said. Such loser mentality.

I'm glad they let Dehart go also. Obviously needed some change. I don't like blaming coaches for bad hitting, but something here is/was broken.

Maybe Dan and Edgar can help.

I wonder how they settled on Dan Wilson. Doesn't seem like a very Jerry move.

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

The offense has been horrid AND SS isn't a good manager. So maybe it is a blessing in disguise that the offense was horrid because it got rid of him.

His mindless monkey brained handed obsession without even bothering to look at splits stats.

His bullpen management.

His decision not to walk Devers before his walk off hit.

His that's baseball, slow play, its a long season BS.

No fire.

But when I lost complete respect for him was when we had were up 2-0 in a 3 game series and before the game he proclaimed "its tough to sweep a team on the road". He then punted with a AAA lineup and then after the game proudly told the media that I told you so, its tough to sweep a team on the road.

Great points, I'm hoping there are no signs of punting from Dan.

The Mariners could have made the playoffs the year before they made the playoffs if they hadn't been playing like they were supposed to lose. "We're not ready yet" they said. Such loser mentality.

I'm glad they let Dehart go also. Obviously needed some change. I don't like blaming coaches for bad hitting, but something here is/was broken.

Maybe Dan and Edgar can help.

I wonder how they settled on Dan Wilson. Doesn't seem like a very Jerry move.

Well, there first call was to Ken Griffey.....but he just said to call Dan and hung up.


What you have just read is a blatant lie...because I made it up.

[Pharmabro]

If we ever had 5-2 leads SS would still have a job. He was a victim of some of the worst offense in the history of baseball.

Then jackasses like Julio come out after his ridiculously weak ass season cost someone else a job and says *we are just employees". What a punk. What little respect I had for that joker is gone. You and the rest of the losers around you cost him his job, and that's the best response you have?

Give me your attempt to reply.

And you forum brothers will grade you.

[Pharmabro]

So, you honestly believe if all these guys actually lived up to their salary, specifically guys like Julio....if the offense wasn't complete and total dogshit, that Servais still loses his job?

They couldn't fire the entire pathetic offense, so they fired the manager. He may have deserved to be fired, but for a punk like Julio to be performing grossly under expectations, and then make that tone deaf statement? What a dickhead.

Guy just lost his job so you can make a few million per HR, stink up the joint and laugh every night about it. Bad look.

You're calling other people punks and dick heads but that is only a reflection of you.

[Pharmabro]

JD is on the record saying they thought they had the best group they have ever assembled this year.

In 2023 they had a 108 OPS+ offense and a 107 ERA+ defense. Seattle has a pattern of starting slow with hitting and through weeding out their Wong's, AJ, Seby, Urias, etc. They also diminish roles like DH to back-up C with Garver, and replace poor performers with hot farm hand call ups, trades, & acquisitions: in 2023 those were Jose C., Ford, Rojas, Marlowe, Dilly. in 2024 Randy, Turner, Rivas, Robles, etc, etc.

In 2023 early on they had an OPS+ in the 80's at one point but as they evaluated, and adjusted to performance they were able to pull that up to a 108 OPS+ by season's end. This year, they were over a 100 OPS+ at points early on and they have made adjustments but instead of a rally mid to late season they have stumbled and are now only at a 95 OPS+. And not only do they have a stumbling offense but they were finding new ways to lose: they had a string of 6 in a row of one run games lost, BP, Fails, SPs surrendering huge games. FFS in one game one of our best SPs gave up 0.9 WAR in one game!

SS had lost the club house, and the season. Their was zero hope after a 10-game lead in mid-June became a 5.5 game deficit in record time. There is now hope, the voice has changed. 3.5 back with 30 to go is attainable.

[Michael K.]

If we ever had 5-2 leads SS would still have a job. He was a victim of some of the worst offense in the history of baseball.

Then jackasses like Julio come out after his ridiculously weak ass season cost someone else a job and says *we are just employees". What a punk. What little respect I had for that joker is gone. You and the rest of the losers around you cost him his job, and that's the best response you have?

Give me your attempt to reply.

And you forum brothers will grade you.

Uhm, maybe this has been a disappointing season and our lack of production cost him his job and we wish we had played better. The response was a fucking punk response. You can like it all you want, I could not care less.

A reflection of me? I'm the one cashing checks and stinking up the joint then saying "I just work here dude" when my pathetic performance cost someone else a job?

I've watched him laugh and giggle all while we blew a ten game lead faster than anyone in MLB history, then make that statement. Yeah, I think he is a punk.

[mostonmike]

4-2 record now for Dan the Man. That’s a disgraceful .667
26 Runs scored 6-3-4-5-2-6 / average per game 4.44 (3.93 for the season prior)

A marginal (or 14.5% statistically) improvement compared to what immediately preceded it, incredibly small sample size. An average return from the offense is all we have needed all season.

Hits per game down to 6.89 vs 7.04 for SS’s 2024

[mostonmike]

We are now 16 games into the Dan Wilson era.

Record 9-7 (.562, 91 win pace)

Outscored opponents by 32 runs (85 R, 53 RA) at 5.31 runs per game (vs 3.93 runs per game in SS first 128 games)
Batting average .243, OPS .748 (vs .216, OPS .666)
Home Runs 18
Hits per game now 8.06 (vs 7.04)
Strikeouts per game 9.56 (vs 10.22)

Pitching
ERA 3.32 (vs 3.53)
Home Runs allowed 26

Strikeouts still high but under 10 per game is still a 6.4% improvement on the Servais part of the year.

But at .562 that’s a 10-8 finish for 83-79. So as the sample size increases it’s a definite improvement but nowhere near enough to get into the playoffs.

[bpj]

We are now 16 games into the Dan Wilson era.

Record 9-7 (.562, 91 win pace)

Outscored opponents by 32 runs (85 R, 53 RA) at 5.31 runs per game (vs 3.93 runs per game in SS first 128 games)
Batting average .243, OPS .748 (vs .216, OPS .666)
Home Runs 18
Hits per game now 8.06 (vs 7.04)
Strikeouts per game 9.56 (vs 10.22)

Pitching
ERA 3.32 (vs 3.53)
Home Runs allowed 26

Strikeouts still high but under 10 per game is still a 6.4% improvement on the Servais part of the year.

But at .562 that’s a 10-8 finish for 83-79. So as the sample size increases it’s a definite improvement but nowhere near enough to get into the playoffs.

Definitely looking better.

I'm curious how much has changed in the hitting process, and how much control Dipoto has over lineup/player usage compared to what he had with Servais.