"I haven't been President in 4 years."gil wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2024 3:53 pmDidn't Trump say that he "saved" Obamacare? (because, he although Obamacare was bad, it was the best choice) I seem to remember a dying John McCain with the dramatic 2:00 am thumbs down. I don't think Trump "saved" Obamacare.Seattle or Bust wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2024 7:12 amI'm not seeing anyone claim Trump won the debate.
Instead, all I see is conservative pundits crying about the debate moderators. If he had won, they wouldn't be pivoting.
She dominated every undecided voter panel, including Fox News.
Brit Hume: "Make no mistake about it. Trump had a bad night. He rose to debate repeatedly when she baited him. Something I'm sure his advisors begged him not to do. We heard so many of the old grievances that we'd long thought Trump had learned were not winners politically... talking about how he didn't lose the election and all that..."
Bret Baer: "VP Harris was clearly well prepared. Practiced. On the offensive much of the night. Former President Trump took a lot of the bait she threw out."
Chris Wallace: "I didn't think I was ever going to witness a debate as devastating as the one back in June ... I think tonight was just as devastating. Trump looked angry, scowling, and old."
Doug Schoen on Fox News: "It’s pretty clear to me that on Tuesday night, Vice President Kamala Harris won what may be the only debate between herself and former President Donald Trump."
Trump made an unannounced visit to the spin room after the debate to try to tell all the reporters he won and to take camera time. Massively insecure move.
He was a mess. The nonsense about immigrants eating people's dogs is just another example of his lunacy. The fact that in 9 years he hasn't even thought about how he would improve healthcare was a holy fuck moment for him.
What do you mean Trump hasn't thought about improving healthcare? He said (I think this quote is accurate) that he has "concepts for a plan".
And? You've never even talked about healthcare? Instead, you claim that Obamacare (the thing you railed against every step of the way) is what you now support?
The Dog thing had to clue Americans into how lost this guy is...
"In Springfield, they're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're eating the cats," Trump said. "They're eating the pets of the people that live there. And this is what's happening in our country, and it's a shame."
"Uh no... that's been debunked."
Trump: "BUT I SAW IT ON TV!!!"