Thread Thief GT 9/15

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Thread Thief GT 9/15

Post by Pharmabro » Sun Sep 15, 2024 4:49 am

All of these games are must wins.

The lefty Andrew Heany is on the mound for them so maybe we see a different look batting order.

Kirby is on the mound for Seattle.
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Post by Donn Beach » Sun Sep 15, 2024 1:35 pm

For you guys that hate strikeouts Arraez seems to have become impossible to strike out
Arraez's hatred of the K is fueling a historic stretch that would seem to belong in any era of MLB history but this one, when pitchers are the nastiest and strikeouts are the highest that they've ever been. Arraez is the unicorn. He's become impossible to strike out.


Entering Friday's series opener against the Giants, Arraez has played his last 27 games completely strikeout-free. Let's break down exactly what he's been doing in those games. (He had four extra plate appearances on Aug. 10 after his last strikeout, but so we can compare him to the rest of the league, we'll start with the first clean game on Aug. 11.)

Arraez has seen 116 two-strike pitches during this stretch. Not a single one has become Strike 3. He has swung at 91 of those two-strike pitches. He hasn't missed once.
https://www.mlb.com/news/luis-arraez-hi ... strikeouts

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Re: Thread Thief GT 9/15

Post by Captain 97 » Sun Sep 15, 2024 2:24 pm

He does so at the expense walks and extra base hits. He has 126 singles, 18 doubles, 1 triple, 3 home runs and only 15 walks. His slugging percentage is only 70 points higher than his bating average which is un heard of. The dude is batting .327 and has an OPS of .753. That's crazy. His OPS+ is 3 points lower than Cal Raleigh's who is hitting .213. :shock:

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Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Sun Sep 15, 2024 2:40 pm

Here's a good example from a few days ago: Arraez calmly took a first-pitch 97 mph fastball from George Kirby for a called strike on the inside edge of the plate … but when Kirby came after him again with another 97 mph fastball on the next pitch, and it leaked out over the plate, Arraez jumped on it and smacked a line-drive base hit.
Kirby comes back with the exact same pitch, why am i not surprised?

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Post by Donn Beach » Sun Sep 15, 2024 3:07 pm

Captain 97 wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2024 2:24 pm
He does so at the expense walks and extra base hits. He has 126 singles, 18 doubles, 1 triple, 3 home runs and only 15 walks. His slugging percentage is only 70 points higher than his bating average which is un heard of. The dude is batting .327 and has an OPS of .753. That's crazy. His OPS+ is 3 points lower than Cal Raleigh's who is hitting .213. :shock:
Yeah that was what I was thinking, there are trade offs. He's like another Dave Cash, 5,554 at bats with 309 strikeouts, a .283 batting average and a .692 OPS

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Re: Thread Thief GT 9/15

Post by D-train » Sun Sep 15, 2024 3:27 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2024 3:07 pm
Captain 97 wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2024 2:24 pm
He does so at the expense walks and extra base hits. He has 126 singles, 18 doubles, 1 triple, 3 home runs and only 15 walks. His slugging percentage is only 70 points higher than his bating average which is un heard of. The dude is batting .327 and has an OPS of .753. That's crazy. His OPS+ is 3 points lower than Cal Raleigh's who is hitting .213. :shock:
Yeah that was what I was thinking, there are trade offs. He's like another Dave Cash, 5,554 at bats with 309 strikeouts, a .283 batting average and a .692 OPS
Take a look at Bill Buckner who everyone thought was a good player and especially a good hitter. It is guys like him that led to Sabermetrics and advanced analytics. Ken Phelps was the first guy I remember that became a sabermetric darling.

Buckner: .289/.321/.408/.729

Phelps: .239/.374/.480/.854

Before the mid 80s Buckner would be considered the far better hitter with a BA 50 points higher. We all now know that is insane.
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Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Sun Sep 15, 2024 3:28 pm

If the final score of today's game is 5-4 that might be the first time every game of a 4 game series ended with the same score.

According to this, the record (as of 9/23/15) for consecutive games in which a team has won/lost by the same score is four. I don't know if that means the team had to win or lose all of them or if it could be a mix of both.

https://valueoverreplacementgrit.com/20 ... -one-team/

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Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Sun Sep 15, 2024 3:37 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2024 3:07 pm
Captain 97 wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2024 2:24 pm
He does so at the expense walks and extra base hits. He has 126 singles, 18 doubles, 1 triple, 3 home runs and only 15 walks. His slugging percentage is only 70 points higher than his bating average which is un heard of. The dude is batting .327 and has an OPS of .753. That's crazy. His OPS+ is 3 points lower than Cal Raleigh's who is hitting .213. :shock:
Yeah that was what I was thinking, there are trade offs. He's like another Dave Cash, 5,554 at bats with 309 strikeouts, a .283 batting average and a .692 OPS
Edgar was perhaps even more extreme in terms of taking the first pitch but i would assume he was able to foul off more pitches in order to draw walks and obviously hit for way more power. But we all know he was/is an advocate of shortening your swing with 2 strikes.

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Re: Thread Thief GT 9/15

Post by bpj » Sun Sep 15, 2024 4:01 pm

Captain 97 wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2024 2:24 pm
He does so at the expense walks and extra base hits. He has 126 singles, 18 doubles, 1 triple, 3 home runs and only 15 walks. His slugging percentage is only 70 points higher than his bating average which is un heard of. The dude is batting .327 and has an OPS of .753. That's crazy. His OPS+ is 3 points lower than Cal Raleigh's who is hitting .213. :shock:
Yep, Arraez is just fat Ichiro.

But at least he plays 2B instead of taking up a power position like Ichiro's worthless ass.
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Re: Thread Thief GT 9/15

Post by D-train » Sun Sep 15, 2024 4:17 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2024 3:28 pm
If the final score of today's game is 5-4 that might be the first time every game of a 4 game series ended with the same score.

According to this, the record (as of 9/23/15) for consecutive games in which a team has won/lost by the same score is four. I don't know if that means the team had to win or lose all of them or if it could be a mix of both.

https://valueoverreplacementgrit.com/20 ... -one-team/
54 Just classic. Can't make it up.
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