A's done in Oakland

[Seattle or Bust]

Paul Sewald who's from Vegas thinks it's a terrible idea

.“I think it’s a terrible idea,” Arizona Diamondbacks closer Paul Sewald said. “The whole thing, I fear, is going to be an abject disaster.”

“We just don’t have enough bandwidth to invest in three, four, five professional teams,” Sewald said. “We just don’t have enough people. That’s OK. We don’t have to be a city that has all four major sports.”

“They are all Dodgers fans,” he said. “Ninety percent of the people there are from California. That’s how my dad got there. That’s how I became a Dodger fan growing up. They’re not leaving the Dodgers fan base, just because you have a team.”

“No one in Vegas is an A’s fan,” Sewald said. “Why are they going to change allegiances to a team that is not trying to win?”

It's interesting the try to win aspect.

“By moving into our new stadium on the Las Vegas Strip,” Fisher said in a statement, “we will finally have the resources to significantly increase our payroll, retain our most talented young players, and make acquisitions through trades and in the free-agent market.”

A’s fans like to point out — they may be emailing me at this very moment — that Fisher’s Major League Soccer team, the San José Earthquakes, moved into a new stadium nine years ago. The Earthquakes have neither posted a winning record nor hosted a playoff game since then, and their payroll generally ranks in the bottom half of the league.

In 2023, the avg attendance at Raiders games was 63K.

You don't need the local population to attend. You need tourists to attend.

And surely attendance will crush the piss poor numbers they always had in Oakland.

It's also a silly narrative that Vegas locals won't shift to becoming A's fans in time.

And correlating soccer in the US to other major sports in the US is hilarious.

It's a dumb correlation.

Baseball =/= Soccer.

[D-train]

I've never understood why a city needs 2x baseball teams or sports teams in general. SF and Oak are the same place. I was also not a fan of the Chargers moving to LA for that reason.

Vegas is an awesome place for the A's to move IMO. Close enough that A's fans can enjoy a fun weekend in Vegas to catch a few games. It's not like they sent the A's to shithole OKC.

Did you see the pic of SOFI When the 49ers were there last week. 90% Red jerseys in the stands.

[Donn Beach]

The point is can Fisher be successful even with a new stadium, interesting he's already complaining about his soccer
stadium

Per ESPN, “Acording to Fisher, the eight-year-old PayPal Stadium in San Jose is already outdated compared to newer MLS stadiums — he mentions LAFC, St. Louis and Austin — and lacks the capacity and premium seating that drives the kind of revenue needed to compete for championships.

[Sibelius Hindemith]

Will there be casinos in the new stadium? They could put up a big screen just for bingo.

[bpj]

What cities aren’t dumps, look at downtown Seattle after 2020!

Baltimore, Detroit, Cleveland, and on and on….

Third World hellholes.

What fan would feel comfortable having their favorite players traipse through MLK Jr Way on their free time?

I haven't been to Seattle in years for exactly that reason, but I'm very much looking forward to going to games in Las Vegas, even if the Mariners aren't playing.

I wouldn't set foot in Oakland in 2024.

Seattle is becoming a lib dump.

A city should have to earn their team.

Oakland hasn't.

And Seattle is failing. But at least most of Seattle is still a beautiful city, for now, unlike Oakland.

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

All cities have their problems, and always have. But descriptions of places as hellholes or cesspools just not match my experience. *Of course* there is crime and there are things that we wish weren't part of our lives. But most of the time, for most people, you can live your life - go out, raise your kids, etc. I suspect that most people who trash cities don't spend much time in them.

I dare you to park your car at any park in Oakland (proper) and go for a 3 hour walk. When you get back, you will have a broken window and your car looted.

This is the same as downtown San Francisco.

All I can say is that if you don't leave anything in view inside your car, it may not be broken into. I am talking even 11 cents in change on the floorboards will get you a broken window.

How do I know? When I go to these cities to do work, the gas station owners ask me to park at a filling station so they can keep track of my car.... so it doesn't get broken into.

[gil]

All cities have their problems, and always have. But descriptions of places as hellholes or cesspools just not match my experience. *Of course* there is crime and there are things that we wish weren't part of our lives. But most of the time, for most people, you can live your life - go out, raise your kids, etc. I suspect that most people who trash cities don't spend much time in them.

I dare you to park your car at any park in Oakland (proper) and go for a 3 hour walk. When you get back, you will have a broken window and your car looted.hing visible

This is the same as downtown San Francisco.

All I can say is that if you don't leave anything in view inside your car, it may not be broken into. I am talking even 11 cents in change on the floorboards will get you a broken window.

How do I know? When I go to these cities to do work, the gas station owners ask me to park at a filling station so they can keep track of my car.... so it doesn't get broken into.

Any crime is too much; not going to argue with that. But I just was in Oakland a year ago, visited a friend overnight, and parked my rental car on his street. No problems.

But I don't leave anything visible when I park my car. Not even a t-shirt when I'm parking in a private driveway in a rich suburb or a small town. It doesn't make these places hellholes or cesspools.

[D-train]

The point is can Fisher be successful even with a new stadium, interesting he's already complaining about his soccer
stadium

Per ESPN, “Acording to Fisher, the eight-year-old PayPal Stadium in San Jose is already outdated compared to newer MLS stadiums — he mentions LAFC, St. Louis and Austin — and lacks the capacity and premium seating that drives the kind of revenue needed to compete for championships.

Wow, he is literally a Stanton clone. Thinks revenues lead to winning instead of the other way around....

[Seattle or Bust]

The Las Vegas Aviators average around 7,000 fans a game year over year. And that's in an outdoor stadium where it's 110* on average over the summer.

This year, Oakland averaged just north of 11,500.

I think Vegas will be fine. I used to live there and remember AAA games were pretty poppin.

[Pharmabro]

But they will not be in Vegas until 2027. They will be moving to a turf stadium iin Sacramento. It will be 130 on that turf in the Sacramento sun.