Calkins questions JSs roster build

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Re: Calkins questions JSs roster build

Post by Michael K. » Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:06 pm

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I would say JS has done a great job at maintaining a mediocre roster the past ten years. His drafts have been unremarkable since 2013 and he frequently has overpaid in trades and FA signings over that same period. What happened to the guy that had 3 great drafts in a row, pulled off masterful trades to acquire Chris Clemons and Marshawn Lynch, and made great FA signings like Browner, Bennett, Avril and McQuistan?
I didn't hate the last few drafts. That said? I understand those that question the decisions to draft outside, inside of addressing the issues on the interior. I like JSN, I like Witherspoon....but I understand those that didn't want us to use higher selections on those positions. I am not so certain about JSN. He sure looked like a guy that is going to put up #1 type numbers. Him in a combo with DK looks pretty damn good right now. WR is certainly a position you can draft early. So is CB. So, again, while I understand the questioning, I don't really agree. You need to be able to throw the ball and you need to be able to defend the pass.

I agree on the Charbonet pick. It feels a little bit like when they drafted C Mike. We have other holes. Back up RB can be addressed later. For Christ sakes, who thought that Chris Carson would be the stud that he was? Walker is a dude....we could have waited to draft a back the very next year, IMO. Be interesting to do a deep dive into that draft and see what kind of talent was available on the O Line at that time. Not something I can do right now, but I think I will.

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Re: Calkins questions JSs roster build

Post by D-train » Sat Nov 09, 2024 12:20 am

Good comp for JSN might be Golden Tate. Adjustment year as a rookie but then took off and was a pretty damn good WR.
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Re: Calkins questions JSs roster build

Post by Pharmabro » Sat Nov 09, 2024 1:37 am

Michael K. wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:06 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:55 pm
I would say JS has done a great job at maintaining a mediocre roster the past ten years. His drafts have been unremarkable since 2013 and he frequently has overpaid in trades and FA signings over that same period. What happened to the guy that had 3 great drafts in a row, pulled off masterful trades to acquire Chris Clemons and Marshawn Lynch, and made great FA signings like Browner, Bennett, Avril and McQuistan?
I didn't hate the last few drafts. That said? I understand those that question the decisions to draft outside, inside of addressing the issues on the interior. I like JSN, I like Witherspoon....but I understand those that didn't want us to use higher selections on those positions. I am not so certain about JSN. He sure looked like a guy that is going to put up #1 type numbers. Him in a combo with DK looks pretty damn good right now. WR is certainly a position you can draft early. So is CB. So, again, while I understand the questioning, I don't really agree. You need to be able to throw the ball and you need to be able to defend the pass.

I agree on the Charbonet pick. It feels a little bit like when they drafted C Mike. We have other holes. Back up RB can be addressed later. For Christ sakes, who thought that Chris Carson would be the stud that he was? Walker is a dude....we could have waited to draft a back the very next year, IMO. Be interesting to do a deep dive into that draft and see what kind of talent was available on the O Line at that time. Not something I can do right now, but I think I will.
I hated CM. Every time that guy ran the ball he'd break one for maybe 12 yards and trip himself and then stair with a huge shit eating grin like he had landed on the moon, solved world hunger, paid off the national debt, and "ended hate" all with his amazing feat of athletic performance. I hated watching him.

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Re: Calkins questions JSs roster build

Post by Pharmabro » Sat Nov 09, 2024 1:38 am

D-train wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2024 12:20 am
Good comp for JSN might be Golden Tate. Adjustment year as a rookie but then took off and was a pretty damn good WR.
Did he banh Wilson's white wife to? :lol:

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Re: Calkins questions JSs roster build

Post by douche » Sat Nov 09, 2024 1:51 am

Pharmabro wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2024 1:37 am
I hated CM. Every time that guy ran the ball he'd break one for maybe 12 yards and trip himself and then stair with a huge shit eating grin like he had landed on the moon, solved world hunger, paid off the national debt, and "ended hate" all with his amazing feat of athletic performance. I hated watching him.
Holy shit, yeah! You described him perfectly. Fucking idiot.

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Re: Calkins questions JSs roster build

Post by Michael K. » Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:18 am

douche wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2024 1:51 am
Pharmabro wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2024 1:37 am
I hated CM. Every time that guy ran the ball he'd break one for maybe 12 yards and trip himself and then stair with a huge shit eating grin like he had landed on the moon, solved world hunger, paid off the national debt, and "ended hate" all with his amazing feat of athletic performance. I hated watching him.
Holy shit, yeah! You described him perfectly. Fucking idiot.
Times two, the guys lack of intelligence was surpassed only by his inability to play football.
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Re: Calkins questions JSs roster build

Post by Donn Beach » Sun Nov 10, 2024 10:31 am

ànd yet he had to have had talent. He repeatedly got cut but then repeatedly got picked up by another team. Those coaches saw something, but it never clicked. Played for five different NFL teams

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Re: Calkins questions JSs roster build

Post by Michael K. » Sun Nov 10, 2024 4:20 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2024 10:31 am
ànd yet he had to have had talent. He repeatedly got cut but then repeatedly got picked up by another team. Those coaches saw something, but it never clicked. Played for five different NFL teams
He was fast, as I recall. Remember Pete going on and on about his “measurable”. Was never actually a football player. Didn’t produce in college or the pros, it these arrogant coaches all think they can be the one to fix it. It’s why athletic QBs like Richardson get over drafted all the time.

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Re: Calkins questions JSs roster build

Post by roosevelt » Sun Nov 10, 2024 11:38 pm

Very few outright wins.
Probably, should move on from JS this year.

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