So how are these mass deportations going to work?

[Donn Beach]

You think illegals just work at home Depot parking lots, seriously? I worked in construction all my life, Latinos dominate the rank and file, and I mean in legitimate construction businesses. I worked on Dan Wilson's house, Bill Gates, I'm just saying it wasn't fly by night. It was legitimate construction businesses that did things legally and there were plenty of Latinos I worked with. Not because they worked cheap but they were fucking good. How many were illegals, I don't know, but believe me, you can find a SS number to get a job, it really isn't that hard.

That's what kills me about guys complaining about Latinos taking their jobs. It wasn't about money it was about skills, and commitment. The guys complaining were the guys coming to work drunk, doing crank in the work shed. Believe me, I lived it. If you want to talk American values it was the Latinos that embodied them. Raising families, coming to work ready to work, taking their job seriously.

The issue to me isn't trying to run the illegals out, it's adjusting the laws so they can work legally, that's what would make America great again. That's what made America great again n in the first place, the effort and desire of immigrants. That's what is funny about Trump. He's built his message on racism and anti immigration when the real issue is Washington. I mean he attacks Washington but not correctly. He talks about changing Washington regulations then start with the antiquated immigration rules. Instead of kicking them out make them legal, America would be better off if he did

Good post. You wouldn't deny, though, that a huge number of illegal immigrants are not productive workers and are in fact contributing to the destruction of American society whether it be through gang activity, as spies for hostile foreign governments or entities, as operatives in terror cells, or simply by their violent nature (such as those fleeing the law in their country of origin or released from prison and sent here by their governments)? It shouldn't be hard to figure out which category they fall into and then deport the bad ones. That's where the money should be spent.

I will deny it. The evidence actually points to illegals offending at a lower rate than native born Americans, in fact it's a much lower rate. That to me makes it impossible for a huge number of them to be involved in criminal activities.

My phone is screwed up, can't copy and paste, so I added a screenshot of a study done in Texas. That once again is the Cato institute, libertarian

The criminal conviction rate for illegals was 45% lower than native born Americans. If you want to be safe, your best bet would be living among illegals rather than actual Americans

[Sibelius Hindemith]

You actually think they included the illegals that are involved in gang activity or foreign espionage in their study? Are you really that naive (or dumb)? They can't even track most of those mfers.

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

And there are millions that don't pay federal income tax because they get paid with cash.
Farmer labor
Maids
Gardeners
Construction

So bring them into the system and collect the taxes

Fuck that!!
Tell them to go through the proper channels and get citizenship.

They have already broken the law twice.

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

And those that you mentionedtt have broken the law twice....

Once when they came into the country
Once when they assumed a SS number
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So are you okay with them breaking the law?

Being in the country illegally is a civil violation it's not criminal. Illegals are not criminals. I'm not okay with it. I think it's a fucked up mess. But I would go about fixing it by changing the laws rather than trying to round up 11 million people to ship them out. I kinda see it similar to legalizing marijuana. Instead of trying to bust whoever lights up a joint change the laws so it's not illegal in the first place

1st-Marijuana shouldn't be legal. Just the smell of it is repulsive.

2nd-If someone breaks the law to get into this country, fuck them, and send them back. I don't care if it's criminal or not.

3rd-Fuck an A you are such a liberal. For once, please, stand up for your country.

[Donn Beach]

Breaks the law to get into the country, or breaks the law to stay after getting into the country, or breaks the law working illegally after getting into the country. If that's the case then it's time to kick Elton Musk's ass out. That I could get behind

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

There was certainly gray area in regards to Musk. But he went through the proper channels now and is an American Citizen.

Something you can get behind.....?
See more shit talk coming from the left that we have been dealing with for years. I didn't think you supported that?

[Donn Beach]

You actually think they included the illegals that are involved in gang activity or foreign espionage in their study? Are you really that naive (or dumb)? They can't even track most of those mfers.

Yeah, of course they included gang activity, gang bangers get busted, that's what the study was about, getting arrested. Espionage? Seriously? You want to deport 11 million people over fears of espionage? You don't think people involved in espionage couldn't get a visa? It be interesting to track espionage arrests if any were undocumented aliens. By the very nature of espionage I'd think you would want legal status

[Donn Beach]

Looking at it I guess being an espionage agent by it's definition makes you an illegal. But I don't see mass deportations as an response.

Anna was hot

. The man accused by Dutch intelligence of trying to secure an internship at the international criminal court developed an elaborately constructed false identity over many years, marking him out as one of Russia’s prized programme of “illegals” – a spying programme that originated during the cold war.

The programme – dramatised in recent years in the hit TV show The Americans – has been revived extensively under Vladimir Putin.

But western experts say that for all the effort Russia puts into it, the number of illegals in operation at any one time is estimated at between 10 and 30 – and often they fail to achieve positions of significant influence.

A group of 10 illegals was unmasked by the FBI in the US 12 years ago, but while they had been in the country for more than a decade, they had largely failed to produce intelligence useful to Moscow partly because they had been closely monitored.

Their at times bumbling attempts to infiltrate high policymaking circles made them figures of fun to many Americans. One of them – Anna Chapman – became such a celebrity that a New York newspaper lamented her departure and asked if the city could keep her.

[HawkandMariner88]

1. Why should smoking a plant be illegal?

2. If you break into another country you should be deported no questions asked.

Can you just go into another persons home & claim it as your home, NO.

Americans are not anti immigration. Could citizenship laws be different, yes. But sneaking into someone else's home & claiming it as your own is immoral, unethical & yes very fucking illegal. Do some illegals work hard & obey the rules, yes. You can't be the country to just welcome everyone here. Countries already full enough as it is. It's not so much the immigration issue we need to change but the path to citizenship. If these same illegals were naturalized citizens in this country, they'd be subject to the same laws as everybody else. So again I say if someone breaks into your home illegally & claims it as their own does that make it right?

[Grandma Lynn]

Would Devils island hold all
of them?
I'm sure Trump will make sure
the legit immigrants will be
able to stay, or have a way to
be able to enter our country
legal.
Okay, I'm not "sure", but
hopefull!