Yes, Biden was the legitimate winner of the 2020 election.

[Seattle or Bust]

Swing state voting 2020 to 2024:

Nevada - Biden: 703k votes, Harris: 705k votes

Arizona - Biden: 1.67m votes, Harris: 1.57m votes

Michigan - Biden: 2.8m votes, Harris: 2.72m votes

Penn - Biden: 3.49m votes, Harris: 3.41m votes

Wisconsin - Biden: 1.63m votes, 1.67m votes

Georgia - Biden: 2.47m votes, Harris: 2.59m votes

Trump swing state voting 2020 to 2024:

Nevada - 2020: 670k votes, 2024: 750k votes

Arizona - 2020: 1.66m votes, 2024: 1.76m votes

Michigan - 2020: 2.65m votes, 2024: 2.8m votes

Penn - 2020: 3.37m votes, 2024: 3.54m votes

Wisconsin - 2020: 1.61m votes, 2024: 1.7m votes

Georgia - 2020: 2.46m votes, 2024: 2.66m votes

***BPJ's claim that Biden didn't get 81 million votes?***

Harris is going to end up with 75 million votes by the time the counting is done.Those extra votes in 2020 came almost solely from the deepest blue states. Harris will win California easily, but she's lost about 2 million votes from the state. She lost 700k votes in New York. She lost 500k votes in Illinois. She lost 500k in New Jersey. She lost 300k from Mass. She lost 100k from each of Washington, Oregon, Colorado, Virginia, and Maryland. In just the massively blue states alone that's 4.5 million votes. The rest of the votes between 75 million and 81 million came from fringe decreases in smaller red states... and then 1 million total in Florida and Texas... so there's your 6 million. But who cares... none of the votes Biden got in deep-blue states mattered in terms of the election results.

As you can see above... Harris got pretty much the same vote totals in swing states as Biden in 2020.

The difference?

Trump was deeply unpopular coming out of the pandemic. Republicans were told to not vote early which was a massive strategic error. It seems mail-in voting made it easier for people to vote, yes... and Dems jumped on the opportunity as you see the massive vote totals in deep-blue states.

Trump was clearly more popular in 2024... certainly more so in crucial swing states... more Republicans chose to vote and did so with mail-in voting as it was encouraged.

[bpj]

They should just keep counting until she has 82 million and wins like they did in 2020.

You're not going to convince anyone.

Should we do a poll?

[Sibelius Hindemith]

..and then there were all those ballot box dump-offs in Detroit, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, and other Dem-controlled cities in battleground states that were cast by God-knows-who with the aid of voter roles that hasn't been updated in God-knows-how-long. I'm sure that had no impact whatsoever.

[Seattle or Bust]

..and then there were all those ballot box dump-offs in Detroit, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, and other Dem-controlled cities in battleground states that were cast by God-knows-who with the aid of voter roles that hasn't been updated in God-knows-how-long. I'm sure that had no impact whatsoever.

So were there ballot dump offs in this election lol?

She and Biden got the same vote totals in the same swing states.

Please tell me the tin foil is really this loaded with lead...

[Seattle or Bust]

They should just keep counting until she has 82 million and wins like they did in 2020.

You're not going to convince anyone.

Should we do a poll?

Are you really upset that the popular vote is getting closer because they're counting all the votes in California? There was only 56% reporting in California or something when you claimed that she got 11 less million votes in this election and I told you they hadn't finished counting votes in a number of west coast states and that she would likely get to around 75,000,000...

Jesus... the race is over you loon. He won.

Oh wow... one of BPJ's mythical polls. For the millionth time, not understanding that the 17 members of the Seattle Times forum believing something in a majority doesn't make it true. I swear, it's like you lack the ability to think abstractly.

Nothing like the brilliant minds of BPJ, Hindemith, Walla Walla, and who could forget... Hawkbowler.

[bpj]

They should just keep counting until she has 82 million and wins like they did in 2020.

You're not going to convince anyone.

Should we do a poll?

Are you really upset that the popular vote is getting closer because they're counting all the votes in California? There was only 56% reporting in California or something when you claimed that she got 11 less million votes in this election and I told you they hadn't finished counting votes in a number of west coast states and that she would likely get to around 75,000,000...

Jesus... the race is over you loon. He won.

Oh wow... one of BPJ's mythical polls. For the millionth time, not understanding that the 17 members of the Seattle Times forum believing something in a majority doesn't make it true. I swear, it's like you lack the ability to think abstractly.

Nothing like the brilliant minds of BPJ, Hindemith, Walla Walla, and who could forget... Hawkbowler.

Exactly.

Yet you come here talking your stupidity acting like you're right, when everybody agrees with me anyways.

You're a lib clown.

Hey, remember this? When everybody wanted you gone the first time and you just blame me? Doesn't seem like you're very capable of change.

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[Sibelius Hindemith]

..and then there were all those ballot box dump-offs in Detroit, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, and other Dem-controlled cities in battleground states that were cast by God-knows-who with the aid of voter roles that hasn't been updated in God-knows-how-long. I'm sure that had no impact whatsoever.

So were there ballot dump offs in this election lol?

She and Biden got the same vote totals in the same swing states.

Please tell me the tin foil is really this loaded with lead...

If it worked last time why wouldn't they try it again? Unfortunately (for you and your ilk) there weren't enough dead people and illegal aliens on the voter rolls this time to pull it off.