The Proverbial Question

[AlvinDavisFan21]

The sad reality is that every season we come back as Mariner fans (over 45 years for me) and think this year is going to be different. This is the year we finally win. We are teased with a nice April, but it is the same losing over and over. Some days I wake up thinking this team will never win. Today is one of those days.

[Michael K.]

How about the pitching

You mean the Pitching came back down to earth? Odd, I wonder who ever could have imagined that might happen? I mean, only everyone besides this Front Office. I think they even knew that they couldn't have the same good luck with health they had last year....they just didn't care. They knew the bullpen was going to be mediocre at best, they just didn't care. There is always an excuse, and they always get away with it.

[Donn Beach]

How about the pitching

You mean the Pitching came back down to earth? Odd, I wonder who ever could have imagined that might happen? I mean, only everyone besides this Front Office. I think they even knew that they couldn't have the same good luck with health they had last year....they just didn't care. They knew the bullpen was going to be mediocre at best, they just didn't care. There is always an excuse, and they always get away with it.

And they have a new manager

[Michael K.]

Good discussion on Brock and Salk about the state of professional sports. I wish I could have listened when they interviewed the guy who wrote the article, but he was basically saying the casual fan has been priced out of being a fan, and I agree. Think about it just here locally....the Seahawks bitch about season ticket holders selling their tickets, but going to a game has become not only a huge hassle but incredibly expensive. Another point they made was owners no longer caring about a connection to the community, what it means to be a fan, and basically "mining" the fan base to turn a profit. Sound like the baseball franchise here?

I think it's bullshit, and until baseball gets a salary cap, it will remain this way. The cap is what allows smaller markets like Green Bay to compete. Imagine if there was no cap, and the payroll discrepancies in football were the same as in baseball?

It mostly hit home just listening to them discuss the greed that has become pro sports. In the last two decades the price of going to a professional game I believe they said rose at a much higher level than the cost of living. I wish I could remember the statistic that was used. I googled the article, and I believe it was this one. They said it was a very long article, so I have not read it yet...but I sure will.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/16/opin ... g-fan.html

[Big_Maple]

Good discussion on Brock and Salk about the state of professional sports. I wish I could have listened when they interviewed the guy who wrote the article, but he was basically saying the casual fan has been priced out of being a fan, and I agree. Think about it just here locally....the Seahawks bitch about season ticket holders selling their tickets, but going to a game has become not only a huge hassle but incredibly expensive. Another point they made was owners no longer caring about a connection to the community, what it means to be a fan, and basically "mining" the fan base to turn a profit. Sound like the baseball franchise here?

I think it's bullshit, and until baseball gets a salary cap, it will remain this way. The cap is what allows smaller markets like Green Bay to compete. Imagine if there was no cap, and the payroll discrepancies in football were the same as in baseball?

It mostly hit home just listening to them discuss the greed that has become pro sports. In the last two decades the price of going to a professional game I believe they said rose at a much higher level than the cost of living. I wish I could remember the statistic that was used. I googled the article, and I believe it was this one. They said it was a very long article, so I have not read it yet...but I sure will.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/16/opin ... g-fan.html

Saw this. And totally agree.

This year I decided not to get a subscription through MLB. They wanted $160 for a season, and experience has taught me that at least 1/4 of the games are not available due to blackout restrictions or because random games are broadcast on some network I don’t have access to. F*ck that shit noise.

Stream east is my go to now, and only for the occasional game I decide to stream while doing something else.

[Michael K.]

Stream east is my go to now, and only for the occasional game I decide to stream while doing something else.

I've maybe watched twenty minutes of Mariner baseball all year, and it was miserable. I watched the Rutgers, WSU, Iowa, and Indiana Husky Football games. Horrible. I watched every Seahawk game, and very few were even enjoyable. There is ZERO chance I am paying for a premium package ever again. Unfortunately I'm a dinosaur, and I refuse to get rid of DirecTv. So I watch the Hawks and the Red Zone channel. I'll try to get into College Football this year, but damn...it's so hard with NIL and the Portal. At least there are a few Huskies that actually played last year playing this year, but I think the Michigan NC game broke me....the aftermath of that game, that even though we got whooped, the officiating was putrid, and if that didn't piss me off enough, everyone but the ball boy and the punter left right after the game!

[Double Mocha Man]

It mostly hit home just listening to them discuss the greed that has become pro sports. In the last two decades the price of going to a professional game I believe they said rose at a much higher level than the cost of living.

That's why I go to the Bellingham Bells games. 10-12 bucks for seating. I'm home in 5 minutes after they win the game. Our next opponent are the Salem Marion Berries on Friday night. Since they are named after a fruit I wonder if they are related to the Savannah Bananas?