The Collapse of Seattle - Another Dem City Destroyed

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Re: The Collapse of Seattle - Another Dem City Destroyed

Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Wed Jul 02, 2025 8:53 pm

gil wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 7:27 pm
I would argue that population growth - of any city - is related more to the availability of jobs that the availability of handouts.

Amazon, Microsoft, Google, Apple, Dell Computer are companies that contributed to the growth of their cities/regions via innovation and creating jobs. They didn't just locate where they did because of population, but a trained, skilled workforce certainly helps. Each of these places has a world class research university.

But the fact is, you can track the growth of Austin with the growth of Dell, and of Silicon Valley with Intel, Google, Apple, etc. In that sense, these companies were the CAUSE of the growth, not just businesses reacting to opportunities.
Very well thought out. How do you explain Bowing so many parts of their business to more tax-friendly states?

And once again, where there is liberal government, the homeless will congregate to suck up as many tax dollars as they can.

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Re: The Collapse of Seattle - Another Dem City Destroyed

Post by gil » Wed Jul 02, 2025 10:01 pm

Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 8:53 pm
gil wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 7:27 pm
I would argue that population growth - of any city - is related more to the availability of jobs that the availability of handouts.

Amazon, Microsoft, Google, Apple, Dell Computer are companies that contributed to the growth of their cities/regions via innovation and creating jobs. They didn't just locate where they did because of population, but a trained, skilled workforce certainly helps. Each of these places has a world class research university.

But the fact is, you can track the growth of Austin with the growth of Dell, and of Silicon Valley with Intel, Google, Apple, etc. In that sense, these companies were the CAUSE of the growth, not just businesses reacting to opportunities.
Very well thought out. How do you explain Bowing so many parts of their business to more tax-friendly states?

And once again, where there is liberal government, the homeless will congregate to suck up as many tax dollars as they can.
Thank you. I've always thought that Boeing moved production to places like Kansas and South Carolina for cheaper, non-union labor. HQ moved to Illinois (certainly not a low tax state), then to Virginia (about average, from what I can tell).

Boeing's employment in Washington went up 10% last year.

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Re: The Collapse of Seattle - Another Dem City Destroyed

Post by auroraave » Thu Jul 03, 2025 1:29 pm

gil wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 7:27 pm
I would argue that population growth - of any city - is related more to the availability of jobs that the availability of handouts.

Amazon, Microsoft, Google, Apple, Dell Computer are companies that contributed to the growth of their cities/regions via innovation and creating jobs. They didn't just locate where they did because of population, but a trained, skilled workforce certainly helps. Each of these places has a world class research university.

But the fact is, you can track the growth of Austin with the growth of Dell, and of Silicon Valley with Intel, Google, Apple, etc. In that sense, these companies were the CAUSE of the growth, not just businesses reacting to opportunities.
What you are failing to recognize is Austin is having a tech boom because businesses are LITERALLY leaving California to go there - much much cheaper, much less regulation, much better tax rates. Amazon is shifting to Bellevue and Virginia. Google is leaving SF because of the terrible conditions up there. Businesses sprouted up in the SIlicon Valley and around San Jose because that's where the like-minded were gathering - just like the auto industry in detroit, wall street, steel in pittsburgh, movies in Hollywood. Businesses didn't up and move there - they were started there. Musk took Tesla to Texas. The tax situation there is exponentially better than Cal.

When you allow and in fact encourage lawlessness you create danger for everyone in that area. When you strangle them with regulations and suffocate them with taxes, you make doing business there a losing game. During covid, when Seattle was enjoying their little 'summer of love' - the looting shuttered hundreds of businesses - I remember a drug store chain closing over 40 stores in the area - didn't that huge macy's close? all those jobs gone - not through market forces - through governmental incompetence and mismanagement. Also factor in the insurance cost - all those claims from the rioting, from the looting - all of that was ALLOWED by the DEM Mayor and Gov. Not only did your taxes go up - those insurance losses will all be passed on to YOU. All of these fucks up come out of YOUR pocket. You don't see this stuff happening in Texas do you?

It amazes me how people are so dead set on 'protecting the party" they literally refuse to acknowledge any of this - I keep showing how much they are taking out of your pocket through grifting, mismanagement and incompetence - and the same brain washed continue with the 'yeah but...."
Several major companies have left Cal for Texas - do the math. Safer, cleaner, tax friendly, more stable - all the reasons you would want to live and/or work there. "But, but, but...." There is an exodus out of these places for a reason.

Wash, rinse repeat.

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