How do we improve the club?

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How do we improve the club?

Post by Pharmabro » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:19 am

Part 1
The offense:
Player Position OPS+ WAR/162 pace

1. JP* SS 131 OPS+ 5.81WAR/162

2. Julio CF 107 OPS+ 5.86 WAR/162

3. Cal# C 191 OPS+ 8.8 WAR/162

4.Randy LF 135 OPS+ 5.74 WAR/162

5. Canzone* RF 171 OPS+ 6.15WAR/162 pace

6. Polanco# DH 122 OPS+ 2.13 WAR/162

7.Raley* 1B 112OPS+ 2.7 WAR/162 pace

8. Ben 3B 83 OPS+ 2.93WAR/162

9. Young* 2B 81 OPS+ 2.86/162 pace



Those bottom 4 could be improved upon but you really got to bring in a minor star to be a true upgrade over any of them. We know that typically they have been platooned with Raley/Solano and Canzone/Moore but the platoon mates are in the 90-95 OPS+ and got there the reverses Solano was ice cold and Moore had a .850 OPS in his 1st 50 games this season :shock:

Bench:
C Garver 91 OPS+
SU Moore 94 OPS+ ( 1 WAR in 186 PAs so far)
INF Solano 90 OPS+
Util Mastro 82 OPS+
Maybe Robles? 83 OPS+

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Re: How do we improve the club?

Post by Pharmabro » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:20 am

Part 2 The BP:

BP
CL Munoz 238 ERA+
SU Brash 412
SU Speier* 146
BP Kowar 183
BP Burgos 205
BP Buzzardo 140
BP Vargas 107
BP Thornton, Sauce, TT, Snider, Legumina,

Vargas is a young guy who has been OK but you keep him around as a guy that has 100 in his pocket and you are really trying to develop him on thee fly. That last 8th member has been a variety of guys we thought might be good like Santos, Snider, and Thornton but just aren’t good or healthy.
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Re: How do we improve the club?

Post by ddraig » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:29 am

Cal can't keep up this pace. I'm hopeful Julio can pick up the slack. I doubt we'll make the playoffs and if we do, we'll likely lose the first series. Sadly, I'd jettison the slackers and bring up kids to learn and to see what we have for next season. I know it's early, but I just don't see this crop of players going too deep in the playoffs. Bring up the kids and lets see what we've got.

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Re: How do we improve the club?

Post by Pharmabro » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:35 am

Part 3 the Rotation:
Woo 133 ERA+
Castillo 107 ERA+
Evan’s 97 ERA+
Gilbert 94 ERA+
Kirby 87 ERA+

Out Miller 64 ERA+, Hancock 67 ERA+

I don’t know what you do here? You could just look at Gilbert and Kirby and say they will find it. Evan’s is pitching about as well as the others did in their 1st year.
Woo was a 94 ERA+ in his 1st
Kirby a 109
Gilbert a 88
Miller a 91

But, you could add a decent #2-3 in Merrill Kelly who is making 7M this year as a 36 year-old with a solid 124 ERA+ on the year and a 113 ERA+ career. 2.7 WAR so far.

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Re: How do we improve the club?

Post by Donn Beach » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:37 am

Pharmabro wrote:
Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:19 am
Part 1
The offense:
Player Position OPS+ WAR/162 pace

1. JP* SS 131 OPS+ 5.81WAR/162

2. Julio CF 107 OPS+ 5.86 WAR/162

3. Cal# C 191 OPS+ 8.8 WAR/162

4.Randy LF 135 OPS+ 5.74 WAR/162

5. Canzone* RF 171 OPS+ 6.15WAR/162 pace

6. Polanco# DH 122 OPS+ 2.13 WAR/162

7.Raley* 1B 112OPS+ 2.7 WAR/162 pace

8. Ben 3B 83 OPS+ 2.93WAR/162

9. Young* 2B 81 OPS+ 2.86/162 pace



Those bottom 4 could be improved upon but you really got to bring in a minor star to be a true upgrade over any of them. We know that typically they have been platooned with Raley/Solano and Canzone/Moore but the platoon mates are in the 90-95 OPS+ and got there the reverses Solano was ice cold and Moore had a .850 OPS in his 1st 50 games this season :shock:

Bench:
C Garver 91 OPS+
SU Moore 94 OPS+ ( 1 WAR in 186 PAs so far)
INF Solano 90 OPS+
Util Mastro 82 OPS+
Maybe Robles? 83 OPS+
So long as a guy is positive WAR its hard to make a case to replace him. Unless you bring in an absolute star the possible improvement is going to incremental

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Re: How do we improve the club?

Post by Vogelbomb » Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:02 am

Pharmabro wrote:
Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:35 am
Part 3 the Rotation:
Woo 133 ERA+
Castillo 107 ERA+
Evan’s 97 ERA+
Gilbert 94 ERA+
Kirby 87 ERA+

Out Miller 64 ERA+, Hancock 67 ERA+

I don’t know what you do here? You could just look at Gilbert and Kirby and say they will find it. Evan’s is pitching about as well as the others did in their 1st year.
Woo was a 94 ERA+ in his 1st
Kirby a 109
Gilbert a 88
Miller a 91

But, you could add a decent #2-3 in Merrill Kelly who is making 7M this year as a 36 year-old with a solid 124 ERA+ on the year and a 113 ERA+ career. 2.7 WAR so far.
Yeah, I think Dipoto goes for an arm. I think Kirby and Castillo are trending up while Gilbert is still a work in progress this season. His lack of length has been a serious issue. And with Miller down, there's room to add an arm here.

I like the way this offense is shaping up. I'd move Canzone up in the order. You're going to get Robles back at some point, he's another catalyst at the top of the lineup. He could be a major spark plug come September, you know he'll be itching to go and that juice he'll bring will be like the whole team just hit 3 lines of coke. Polanco would be on track for about 5 WAR if he was playing in the field every day. And that's with a major May swoon. He's starting to drive the ball again. I could see him, Randy and Julio all get to 30 bombs.

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Re: How do we improve the club?

Post by GL_Storm » Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:05 am

Do you mean this season or in general for next season and beyond?

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Re: How do we improve the club?

Post by Michael K. » Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:15 am

GL_Storm wrote:
Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:05 am
Do you mean this season or in general for next season and beyond?
Good point. My thought was replace the entire front office. This team might have a chance to improve then.

Once J Rod turned his back on the All Star game? He's caught fire. That guy hits like that, the starting Pitching gets and stays healthy? They only need to add a bat and a bullpen arm. But that's a lot of ifs. I have as much faith in J Rod becoming the guy everyone thought he was as I do the State of Washington cutting taxes.

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Re: How do we improve the club?

Post by Juliooooo » Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:17 am

Trade for Geno. We know he’ll do well in the locker room, and he’d be a hide improvement offensively at 3B
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Re: How do we improve the club?

Post by Pharmabro » Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:30 am

Part 4:

The Four Horseman of the Apocalypse!

The four players that will put the M’s into, and winning the World Series:

1. Diamondbacks: Eugenio S 5.5M, RHP Merril Kelly 4.6M (10.1M total) Seattle sends Ryan Sloan 14.2M, Morales 2.1M, and Tyler Locklear 2.3M 18.6M total

2. Mariners get CJ Abrams SS 50.8M 138 OPS+, for Nat’s get Colt Emerson 46.5M, Bryce Miller 13.1M (59.6M)

3. Mariners get Danny Coulombe* 0.61 ERA in 35 games this year and a 126 ERA+ (1.2M trade calc.) Twins get #22 prospect Brock Moore and his 65 grade FB and 2 PTNL in the 15-30 ranked prospects. There are a ton of good lefty guys with good performance Chapman is probably the best available? On the market.

This four players really complete this team in a way that gives them no weaknesses. Danny gives them another good lefty and gives them 8 strong options in the pen. CJ is another stud and probably pushes JP to 2B at some point. Geno is a short timer but is a second 140 OPS+ bat. Finally, I imagine Gilbert and Kirby are going to be back to normal at some point and Evan’s giving you 97 ERA+ doesn’t hurt you but adding a 124 ERA+ down the stretch?
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