Evans vs.Boyle G.T. 8/9/25

[D-train]

Sure, but with his play I'd think it'd be like 10.

He's tied for 37th over that span.

First Base positional adjustment means you have to be off the chart ridiculous to lead the League. Top fWAR for a 1B this year is 3.6 which is 22nd in baseball.

Which seems silly.

And to Vogel's credit, why WAR should probably not be compared too closely between positions.

The fuck? that is the entire purpose of WAR are you more intoxicated than me?

[Donn Beach]

Its always relative, how common or important are clean innings for closers? This site, Closing Time, which is updated every Tuesday has Munoz ranked sixth best.


https://pitcherlist.com/closing-time-8- ... y-tuesday/

[Seattle or Bust]

First Base positional adjustment means you have to be off the chart ridiculous to lead the League. Top fWAR for a 1B this year is 3.6 which is 22nd in baseball.

Which seems silly.

And to Vogel's credit, why WAR should probably not be compared too closely between positions.

The fuck? that is the entire purpose of WAR are you more intoxicated than me?

We have the argument all the time that someone like Kyle Schwarber is far more valuable than his WAR indicates.

My argument will always be that there is too much of a buff given to SS's, CF's. etc.

The fact that a player can be hitting for a 1.100 OPS and 11 steals over an 8 game span and only generate 0.3 WAR while playing solid defense is insane.

[Millikin]

Didn't there used to be a forum member named "WAR what is it good for"?

Unrelated, but that's the dumbest song ever. Absolutely nothing? Seriously?

[Seattle or Bust]

Didn't there used to be a forum member named "WAR what is it good for"?

Unrelated, but that's the dumbest song ever. Absolutely nothing? Seriously?

Well the war it was written about surely wasn't good for much.

[Millikin]

Didn't there used to be a forum member named "WAR what is it good for"?

Unrelated, but that's the dumbest song ever. Absolutely nothing? Seriously?

Well the war it was written about surely wasn't good for much.

Yeah, but the lyrics, "War, what is it good for? Absolutely nothing!"

Maybe run that stupid line by a holocaust survivor, or freed slaves, or people who gained independence from monarchs, or.... It's a fucking stupid song for idiots.

[Donn Beach]

Which seems silly.

And to Vogel's credit, why WAR should probably not be compared too closely between positions.

The fuck? that is the entire purpose of WAR are you more intoxicated than me?

We have the argument all the time that someone like Kyle Schwarber is far more valuable than his WAR indicates.

My argument will always be that there is too much of a buff given to SS's, CF's. etc.

The fact that a player can be hitting for a 1.100 OPS and 11 steals over an 8 game span and only generate 0.3 WAR while playing solid defense is insane.

seems to me either accept it or reject it, there is reasoning behind the weights, they have a purpose. Its not like the guys at fangraphs are going to slap their foreheads going, gee we didn't realize we were screwing Schwarber. Its the cherry picking, WAR will get tossed around here in debate and when i bring it up it always seems to get discounted because of it being weighted. Okay its weighted, that's how its done

[mostonmike]

Such a drama queen Munoz.

Mariners playing good ball.

One of the funniest player assessments ever during a game thread.

[Seattle or Bust]

The fuck? that is the entire purpose of WAR are you more intoxicated than me?

We have the argument all the time that someone like Kyle Schwarber is far more valuable than his WAR indicates.

My argument will always be that there is too much of a buff given to SS's, CF's. etc.

The fact that a player can be hitting for a 1.100 OPS and 11 steals over an 8 game span and only generate 0.3 WAR while playing solid defense is insane.

seems to me either accept it or reject it, there is reasoning behind the weights, they have a purpose. Its not like the guys at fangraphs are going to slap their foreheads going, gee we didn't realize we were screwing Schwarber. Its the cherry picking, WAR will get tossed around here in debate and when i bring it up it always seems to get discounted because of it being weighted. Okay its weighted, that's how its done

I think the numbers should be adjusted slightly... just me though.

Pitcher fWAR is also really, really silly. They do theirs by FIP when a pitcher's sole job is to limit runs.

[Seattle or Bust]

Fangraphs has Eduard Bazardo worth -0.1 fWAR and Casey Legumina at 0.0...

All you need to know about how dogshit their metric is here.