Most cursed sports city

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Re: Most cursed sports city

Post by D-train » Thu Aug 21, 2025 3:54 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
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The thing is, Seattle has been victimized by two of the most egregious cases of crooked officiating in modern American pro sports history, costing us a likely Super Bowl victory and a trip to the NBA finals. I'm not sure Cleveland has experienced that although i know little of their history. They had the Spiders which i guess accounts for some misery to those old enough to have experienced their awfulness.
For those old enough???? Would have to born in Cleveland in the early 1890s to remember that team. They had 12 HRs on the season and their best player had 0.9 bWAR. lol

https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CLV/1899.shtml
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Re: Most cursed sports city

Post by DavidGee24 » Thu Aug 21, 2025 4:38 pm

D-train wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 3:54 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 1:45 am
The thing is, Seattle has been victimized by two of the most egregious cases of crooked officiating in modern American pro sports history, costing us a likely Super Bowl victory and a trip to the NBA finals. I'm not sure Cleveland has experienced that although i know little of their history. They had the Spiders which i guess accounts for some misery to those old enough to have experienced their awfulness.
For those old enough???? Would have to born in Cleveland in the early 1890s to remember that team. They had 12 HRs on the season and their best player had 0.9 bWAR. lol

https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CLV/1899.shtml
The owners also owned the St. Louis franchise and transferred their best players including Cy Young to that team. They ended up not even being able to draw 100 fans to games so other teams refused to play there and they had to play most of their games on the road. They finished on a 1-40 run. Amazingly, their worst player had a bWAR of - 3.7 and their "ace" who went 4-30 had a bWAR of - 1.5

Even with that, they didn't need to rename the team but since they did, they should renamed the team the Spiders instead of the Guardians. Who wouldn't have been on board with that? Seriously, who?

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Re: Most cursed sports city

Post by DavidGee24 » Thu Aug 21, 2025 4:46 pm

Bil522 wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:07 am
Name the top 3 teams to have won NFL Championships.

1. Green Bay 19
2. Chicago Bears 9
3T NY Giants 8
3T Cleveland Browns 8
Imagine being a Browns fan from 1946 - 1965 and having no idea that you'd then go the next 59 years without even being in the championship game, and the way they continue to do things ("Watson only has what, 20 women accusing him? It'll blow over, sign him") us Mariner fans (48th year) might never catch up.

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Re: Most cursed sports city

Post by Michael K. » Thu Aug 21, 2025 4:51 pm

D-train wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 3:35 pm
Problem with our SB win I can never enjoy it because I instantly always think of the nightmare SB loss that followed it and nearly getting frostbite during the SB parade. It was like 6 degrees.
I will go to my grave saying this, but if we beat the Pats in that Super Bowl, we win the next one too....and I'm not so sure we don't win another in there somewhere. But I seriously think we three peat if not for the destruction that followed that epic collapse.

The LOB never got over it, Lynch soon retires, and then comes back but as a Raider. I don't think Baldwin ever got over it either. We called a slant to the gunner on the punt team. That is the play we drew up in the biggest moment of the year? That was intentional. It was arrogant. We'll show them, it's not going to Doug, it's not going to Lynch, it's not a QB boot...nope, let's prove everyone wrong and have our short QB throw an inside slant into a tight window...oh, and let's throw it to Ricardo fucking Lockette, who is only on the team to cover kicks and punts!

Fucking dumbest play call in the history of football, and it is compounded by the fact that piss poor clock management and misuse of timeouts is why it was even necessary. Oh, that and the fact that we couldn't figure out why Belichick wasn't calling timeouts. Imagine if we drain almost all of the clock and score? Bill would have looked like a dipshit for not saving time for Brady. Nope, we had to out smart ourselves!

Reminds me of when Pete complained that the Bills didn't run the ball. "We had a great game plan if they had run it" he says. Dumb Fuck, they had Josh Allen and a bunch of stud receivers. They aren't running the ball, especially against the soft ass pass defense we called. Line up behind the sticks and bail at the snap. Yeah, I'd throw the ball too. He was so flabbergasted that Bill didn't use timeouts that he completely brain farted.

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Re: Most cursed sports city

Post by gil » Thu Aug 21, 2025 5:33 pm

I guess it depends on which sports. Huskies played in a national championship game 2 years ago. Storm and Sounders have each won multiple championships since I've lived here.

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Re: Most cursed sports city

Post by D-train » Thu Aug 21, 2025 5:45 pm

DavidGee24 wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 4:38 pm
D-train wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 3:54 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 1:45 am
The thing is, Seattle has been victimized by two of the most egregious cases of crooked officiating in modern American pro sports history, costing us a likely Super Bowl victory and a trip to the NBA finals. I'm not sure Cleveland has experienced that although i know little of their history. They had the Spiders which i guess accounts for some misery to those old enough to have experienced their awfulness.
For those old enough???? Would have to born in Cleveland in the early 1890s to remember that team. They had 12 HRs on the season and their best player had 0.9 bWAR. lol

https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CLV/1899.shtml
The owners also owned the St. Louis franchise and transferred their best players including Cy Young to that team. They ended up not even being able to draw 100 fans to games so other teams refused to play there and they had to play most of their games on the road. They finished on a 1-40 run. Amazingly, their worst player had a bWAR of - 3.7 and their "ace" who went 4-30 had a bWAR of - 1.5

Even with that, they didn't need to rename the team but since they did, they should renamed the team the Spiders instead of the Guardians. Who wouldn't have been on board with that? Seriously, who?
My wife. She hates Spiders. lol
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Re: Most cursed sports city

Post by D-train » Thu Aug 21, 2025 5:49 pm

gil wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 5:33 pm
I guess it depends on which sports. Huskies played in a national championship game 2 years ago. Storm and Sounders have each won multiple championships since I've lived here.
Those teams don't even exist in the minds of normal Sports fans. I am X hours a day and neither team is even mentioned EVER.
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Re: Most cursed sports city

Post by Michael K. » Thu Aug 21, 2025 7:26 pm

gil wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 5:33 pm
I guess it depends on which sports. Huskies played in a national championship game 2 years ago.
I mentioned that, it was another example of how we can't keep nice things.

The very next year the entire staff was gone along with every starter that wasn't a punter or kicker.

Lose a SB in the worst fashion ever...the year after winning one and then basically have that derail a dynasty? Check.
Lose to an 8 seed in the first round, lose to the refs and the NBA, lose to Michael Jordan when he returns and then lose Kemp, the Glove and shortly after the entire franchise? Check.
Set a Major League Regular Season wins record only to have 9/11 derail you and then make one single playoff appearance in two and a half decades? Check.

Every high for us has been followed by a nut punch level low. And usually it lasts and lasts. Even if the Sonics come back it won't be the same. The Seahawks have been stuck in just better than mediocre mode since second and goal and the Mariners? Don't make me laugh. One playoff appearance since 2001? Cleveland has changed names as many times as we have made the playoffs in that span.

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Re: Most cursed sports city

Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Thu Aug 21, 2025 9:47 pm

I always felt like San Diego was kind of a hard-luck sports story.
Baseball; they seem to spend money and get nowhere.
Football; they spend money and piss the fans off and get nowhere....then move 70 miles to the north.

Is there anything else in SD other than a Mountain West team?

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Re: Most cursed sports city

Post by D-train » Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:14 pm

Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 9:47 pm
I always felt like San Diego was kind of a hard-luck sports story.
Baseball; they seem to spend money and get nowhere.
Football; they spend money and piss the fans off and get nowhere....then move 70 miles to the north.

Is there anything else in SD other than a Mountain West team?
Clippers also move to LA. I drove from San Diego to LA a year ago. It is 125 Miles.
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