2025 Prospects Thread

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Re: 2025 Prospects Thread

Post by Juliooooo » Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:22 am

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They should move switchy to the bullpen and get him to the majors next year.
Not sure he’s good enough as a lefty to face major league hitters. Also don’t think he’s pitching much lefty anyways. Pitched only righty today
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Re: 2025 Prospects Thread

Post by GL_Storm » Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:24 am

Juliooooo wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:22 am
GL_Storm wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:03 am
They should move switchy to the bullpen and get him to the majors next year.
Not sure he’s good enough as a lefty to face major league hitters. Also don’t think he’s pitching much lefty anyways. Pitched only righty today
That seems to be the growing consensus, that he needs to give up the switch pitching thing.

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Re: 2025 Prospects Thread

Post by Donn Beach » Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:54 am

He's too good a right handed starter to be moved to the bp. I think everybody is making too much of the switch pitching. His ability to pitch with his left arm is way behind his right I don't believe letting him try it is hampering his development as a right handed starter. He's a right handed starter, that's what he is

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Re: 2025 Prospects Thread

Post by Seattle or Bust » Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:31 pm

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I would re-sign Naylor... 2 years $34M.

I would sign the kid from Japan. Have him play 3B and then move him to 1B when Emerson is ready in a couple years.
LOL the prediction is he will get $100M. I think that is high but no way in hell he only gets that.
Alonso, who is far more productive in his career, was offered $154M/7 before he took the larger 2-year deal.

Naylor has never produced more than 2.3 bWAR in his career and has a career 7.2 bWAR. Alonso has produced 22.7 bWAR and the best he was offered on a long-term deal was $22M a year.

Perhaps Naylor gets a longer contract, like 4 years, but I do not see it surpassing $17M a year.

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Re: 2025 Prospects Thread

Post by Donn Beach » Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:39 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:31 pm
D-train wrote:
Mon Aug 18, 2025 10:11 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Fri Aug 15, 2025 6:02 am
I would re-sign Naylor... 2 years $34M.

I would sign the kid from Japan. Have him play 3B and then move him to 1B when Emerson is ready in a couple years.
LOL the prediction is he will get $100M. I think that is high but no way in hell he only gets that.
Alonso, who is far more productive in his career, was offered $154M/7 before he took the larger 2-year deal.

Naylor has never produced more than 2.3 bWAR in his career and has a career 7.2 bWAR. Alonso has produced 22.7 bWAR and the best he was offered on a long-term deal was $22M a year.

Perhaps Naylor gets a longer contract, like 4 years, but I do not see it surpassing $17M a year.
Yea, think you have to take into account he's only 28

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Re: 2025 Prospects Thread

Post by Seattle or Bust » Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:44 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:39 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:31 pm
D-train wrote:
Mon Aug 18, 2025 10:11 pm


LOL the prediction is he will get $100M. I think that is high but no way in hell he only gets that.
Alonso, who is far more productive in his career, was offered $154M/7 before he took the larger 2-year deal.

Naylor has never produced more than 2.3 bWAR in his career and has a career 7.2 bWAR. Alonso has produced 22.7 bWAR and the best he was offered on a long-term deal was $22M a year.

Perhaps Naylor gets a longer contract, like 4 years, but I do not see it surpassing $17M a year.
Yea, think you have to take into account he's only 28
I do take that into account.

1 year of age difference between him and Alonso when they were free agents isn't going to amount to Naylor getting some $25M a year deal or whatever given the difference in production.

Like I said, I see $17M a year, no longer than 4 years offered.

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Re: 2025 Prospects Thread

Post by GL_Storm » Sat Aug 23, 2025 5:28 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:54 am
He's too good a right handed starter to be moved to the bp. I think everybody is making too much of the switch pitching. His ability to pitch with his left arm is way behind his right I don't believe letting him try it is hampering his development as a right handed starter. He's a right handed starter, that's what he is
Maybe he is maybe he isn't. Most guys trend towards average as they get closer to the major leagues and with Switchy, we just don't know that much about him. But if he does start to really thrive in the minors next year, and the big league rotation is healthy and doing well, maybe you just bring him to the majors in a bullpen role for that season. You can always move him back to the rotation later.

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Re: 2025 Prospects Thread

Post by GL_Storm » Sat Aug 23, 2025 5:30 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:44 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:39 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:31 pm


Alonso, who is far more productive in his career, was offered $154M/7 before he took the larger 2-year deal.

Naylor has never produced more than 2.3 bWAR in his career and has a career 7.2 bWAR. Alonso has produced 22.7 bWAR and the best he was offered on a long-term deal was $22M a year.

Perhaps Naylor gets a longer contract, like 4 years, but I do not see it surpassing $17M a year.
Yea, think you have to take into account he's only 28
I do take that into account.

1 year of age difference between him and Alonso when they were free agents isn't going to amount to Naylor getting some $25M a year deal or whatever given the difference in production.

Like I said, I see $17M a year, no longer than 4 years offered.

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I don't think Naylor will get anything like $17 million per year. If he does, it won't be from the Mariners.

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Re: 2025 Prospects Thread

Post by Seattle or Bust » Sat Aug 23, 2025 5:58 pm

GL_Storm wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 5:30 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:44 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:39 pm


Yea, think you have to take into account he's only 28
I do take that into account.

1 year of age difference between him and Alonso when they were free agents isn't going to amount to Naylor getting some $25M a year deal or whatever given the difference in production.

Like I said, I see $17M a year, no longer than 4 years offered.

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I don't think Naylor will get anything like $17 million per year. If he does, it won't be from the Mariners.
If he gets longer term I could see like $65M/4.

But ya, Naylor ain't getting anything near $100M.

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Re: 2025 Prospects Thread

Post by GL_Storm » Sat Aug 23, 2025 6:31 pm

I think the Mariners and other teams would be smart to have more of an open mind towards developing athletes at 1B, as opposed to what most teams do which is to put guys there that can't play any other position, but have some potential with the bat. The result of that approach is that aside from Bryce Eldridge and Jac Caglianone, there are almost no high ceiling prospects at that position. And this filters through to the majors. Look at all the shitty, fringe players hanging on to major league careers at 1B.

And then if you're a team like the Mariners, and you need a 1B, you're in a position where you have to overpay for a player like Naylor, who is decent, but not someone that a team should invest scarce resources in.

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