M's expected to be in on Skubal per Buster Olney

[Big_Maple]

The want a MLB ready player so it would take Kirby + a top 100 prospect. I would be happy to do that. One prospect out of 8 in the top 100 doesn't drain the farm.

Milwaukee received left-hander DL Hall and infielder Joey Ortiz, a pair of Top 100 prospects, along with a Competitive Balance Round A Draft pick (No. 34 overall).

Three executives cited the Burnes trade as a strong comp, though all of them believe the Tigers will be able to extract more for Skubal.

The price may not be too steep for you and I (and I keep saying that I, personally, am not opposed to this trade - I'd welcome it). My point is that the M's will not be the only bidders if they choose to pursue him. A Kirby and a prospect will not seal the deal. It just won't. The kind of give it would take to net Skubal is inconsistent with the way this team pursues offseason trades.

[bpj]

The Mariners are in a position- theoretically- where they could take on the salary of another player to lessen the impact of the prospect haul also imo.

Not that the Tigers have seemed too concerned about throwing money around lately.

But maybe you offer to take on a portion of Javier Baez's salary and give him a shot at the 2B/Util role so you can get away without killing the farm.

I don't think you'd have to give up much of the farm for 1 year of a guy these days though.

Chances are the Tigers end up holding Skubal until the deadline to see if they have a shot at the playoffs again.

But if they do trade him, you've got to be in on him.

[D-train]

The want a MLB ready player so it would take Kirby + a top 100 prospect. I would be happy to do that. One prospect out of 8 in the top 100 doesn't drain the farm.

Milwaukee received left-hander DL Hall and infielder Joey Ortiz, a pair of Top 100 prospects, along with a Competitive Balance Round A Draft pick (No. 34 overall).

Three executives cited the Burnes trade as a strong comp, though all of them believe the Tigers will be able to extract more for Skubal.

The price may not be too steep for you and I (and I keep saying that I, personally, am not opposed to this trade - I'd welcome it). My point is that the M's will not be the only bidders if they choose to pursue him. A Kirby and a prospect will not seal the deal. It just won't. The kind of give it would take to net Skubal is inconsistent with the way this team pursues offseason trades.

Funny in my X chat people are saying to it would be crazy to do a 1 for 1 Kirby for Skubal. I think we are narrowing down the price.

[Vogelbomb]

I don't want to see anymore fucking trade brainstorms using that fucking bullshit feeder trade value site. It's complete garbage.

[Donn Beach]

The want a MLB ready player so it would take Kirby + a top 100 prospect. I would be happy to do that. One prospect out of 8 in the top 100 doesn't drain the farm.

Milwaukee received left-hander DL Hall and infielder Joey Ortiz, a pair of Top 100 prospects, along with a Competitive Balance Round A Draft pick (No. 34 overall).

Three executives cited the Burnes trade as a strong comp, though all of them believe the Tigers will be able to extract more for Skubal.

The price may not be too steep for you and I (and I keep saying that I, personally, am not opposed to this trade - I'd welcome it). My point is that the M's will not be the only bidders if they choose to pursue him. A Kirby and a prospect will not seal the deal. It just won't. The kind of give it would take to net Skubal is inconsistent with the way this team pursues offseason trades.

The thing is, it gets to my general SSS argument. The market is so small, 29 teams with only a handful probably being involved that's there no way to predict what the price could be. That's the clickbait aspect, the speculation. Who predicted the cost to obtain Cliff Lee? There's no reason for Dipoto not to be inquiring

[D-train]

I don't want to see anymore fucking trade brainstorms using that fucking bullshit feeder trade value site. It's complete garbage.

If 93% success rate is complete garbage then you success rate is a steaming sack of shit. I still remember the prediction that the Bartender was going to become a starter. I don't give a fuck if you don't want to see them but thanks for letting me know!!!!

[D-train]

The Mariners are in a position- theoretically- where they could take on the salary of another player to lessen the impact of the prospect haul also imo.

Not that the Tigers have seemed too concerned about throwing money around lately.

But maybe you offer to take on a portion of Javier Baez's salary and give him a shot at the 2B/Util role so you can get away without killing the farm.

I don't think you'd have to give up much of the farm for 1 year of a guy these days though.

Chances are the Tigers end up holding Skubal until the deadline to see if they have a shot at the playoffs again.

But if they do trade him, you've got to be in on him.

Tigers are still in their window so would want Kirby. They don't give a fuck about prospects but might have to throw one in with Kirby to push the deal through.

[Big_Maple]

Funny in my X chat people are saying to it would be crazy to do a 1 for 1 Kirby for Skubal. I think we are narrowing down the price.

I feel like I am being trolled right now. You are really using chatter on a Twitter feed to estimate trade values?

[Seattle or Bust]

Everyone in baseball had them needing to give up top 100 prospects to get both Baylor and Geno which wasn't even remotely the case

I didn't and I was right.

Issue is, the Naylor/Geno trades are consistent with what I think they want their strategy to be.

They want to be within striking distance of the playoffs by the trade deadline and they feel with the current roster + coming prospects they can do that. They then feel they can supplement the roster by trading fringe prospects for rentals.

I don't think Skubal is consistent with that philosophy at all.

Would you trade Miller for Skubal?

I don't know if it's as much about what I would do vs what the M's would do.

I think the M's think '25 was blip for Miller. He's cheaply controlled and very talented which I think checks a lot of boxes for the M's. Not very many 25 year olds out there are hanging sub-3 ERA's over 31 starts... which is why MLBTV is horseshit in some respects.

I also don't see the M's trading for Skubal if it is going to weaken their current rotation in doing so.

If they go for Skubal, it's got to be for prospects only. I realize Detroit is contending... but they seem to be falling into a more small-market approach where trading Skubal for a boat load of good prospects fits their building model.

[Seattle or Bust]

Everyone in baseball had them needing to give up top 100 prospects to get both Baylor and Geno which wasn't even remotely the case

I didn't and I was right.

Issue is, the Naylor/Geno trades are consistent with what I think they want their strategy to be.

They want to be within striking distance of the playoffs by the trade deadline and they feel with the current roster + coming prospects they can do that. They then feel they can supplement the roster by trading fringe prospects for rentals.

I don't think Skubal is consistent with that philosophy at all.

So you think Buster is full of shit and just speculating because they should be involved and doesn't have any sources? Very possible. I don't trust they greasy national writers.

I mean I'm sure the M's will check in on the price... much like it was rumored with Ohtani.

But just like they always do, they'll pass and he'll go to Boston or San Diego or something.