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Michael K.
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Pete could have, and should have stayed retired. He is the same out dated dinosaur he was when he was here. Sorry, I can't feel sorry for him. His stubborn refusal to ever adapt is what made this franchise a real good team and not a dynasty. Seriously, why come out of retirement to coach Vegas?
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They were asking the same thing on national sports radio live Vegas would hire the oldest coach in the history of the NFL for a rebuild.Michael K. wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 3:49 amPete could have, and should have stayed retired. He is the same out dated dinosaur he was when he was here. Sorry, I can't feel sorry for him. His stubborn refusal to ever adapt is what made this franchise a real good team and not a dynasty. Seriously, why come out of retirement to coach Vegas?
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Donn Beach
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Rebuilding? Remember, the NFL advanced metrics guys had the raiders off season rated higher than the seahawks, points added. Their record was supposed to be betterD-train wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 4:02 amThey were asking the same thing on national sports radio live Vegas would hire the oldest coach in the history of the NFL for a rebuild.Michael K. wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 3:49 amPete could have, and should have stayed retired. He is the same out dated dinosaur he was when he was here. Sorry, I can't feel sorry for him. His stubborn refusal to ever adapt is what made this franchise a real good team and not a dynasty. Seriously, why come out of retirement to coach Vegas?
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Donn Beach
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Mid season awards, no argument, I really don't know, interesting the perceptions
MVP
Offensive player of the year
Myles Garrett DPOY
Offensive rookie of the year
Abdul Carter
Protecter Of the year
Creed Humphrey
Coach of the year
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MVP
Gives it to Drake MayeSam Darnold has gone supernova for portions of this season, thriving in Klint Kubiak’s Seahawks offense and developing a mind meld with Jaxon Smith-Njigba. Darnold ranks second in dropback success rate, third in EPA per dropback, second in QBR and first in net yards per attempt (9.0!), and he's done that while playing the seventh-hardest schedule, per FTN’s DVOA metric. Darnold’s DVOA entering week 10 of 41.5% is 10% higher than Stafford in second place. The Seahawks' run game has been one of the league’s least efficient, but they have one of its best defenses (and special teams units, too). That said, Darnold, JSN, and the rest of the Seahawks' pass catchers have gone nuclear this season in Kubiak’s offense. Things are streamlined for Darnold, but he’s operating at the cleanest and quickest level of his career.
Offensive player of the year
Gives it to JSNSmith-Njigba is currently averaging 4.47 yards per route run over the first nine weeks of the season. While this stat has become more popular in recent years, I want to give historical context as to how high of a mark 4.47 is: Only a dozen wide receivers have topped 3 or more yards per route run since 2013 (the furthest TruMedia’s database reliably goes back for route metrics). Tyreek Hill’s 2023 season is currently the highest mark at 3.85 yards. Smith-Njigba is more than a half yard above Hill’s already-eyewatering mark.
He's also currently earning the second-highest target share since 2013, being targeted on 37.3% his routes. He’s racked up a first down on 19.3% of those routes, which again is the highest mark since 2013, and again is topping Hill's 2023 season at 17.8%. Pigeonholed as a slot-only dynamo in the short and intermediate game, Smith-Njigba is currently gaining an explosive reception (16 yards or more) on 11.3% of his routes, and he's doing it all over the field on catch-and-runs and on the deep ball. Just how high of a rate is 11.3%? Only seven WRs are above 6% this year and Nacua is second at 6.9%. So — you guessed it — 11.3% ranks first since 2013
Myles Garrett DPOY
Offensive rookie of the year
DROYIn a wide open Offensive Rookie of the Year race, I went with a player who deserves as much recognition as possible despite playing a position that will likely never give him the award (but we should, dang it!). Grey Zabel was a polished player entering the NFL, but it’s still a tough transition from college to the NFL, especially from the FCS level at North Dakota State. Zabel has already played like a good starter, and I would say even at a Pro Bowl level, over the first two months of his career.
The floor is lifted by the Seahawks' play-action and zone-heavy scheme, but Zabel excels and lifts the ceiling of what is asked out of him, creating a formidable and athletic left side with left tackle Charles Cross. Zabel is athletic enough to get to the second level and help create voids with his cut-off blocks. And he’s been superb in pass protection so far this season: Zabel has only allowed eight pressures, with his 3.5% pressure rate allowed the lowest among all qualifying offensive guards in the NFL. Not just rookie guards, all NFL guards. He hasn’t allowed a sack so far this season as well, per Next Gen Stats. And no rookie offensive guard since 2016 has played as many pass protection snaps as Zabel has this season (231) and not allowed a sack
Abdul Carter
Protecter Of the year
Creed Humphrey
Coach of the year
Assistant coach of the yearAnd then there's Shane Steichen, who is my pick at the midway point, dialing up plays for not only the best offense through nine weeks, but one of the best offenses we’ve seen this millennium. Macdonald and Steichen both had input in making huge decisions at the quarterback spot, and both have turned out wonderfully so far through the first two months.
Take your pick. Steichen is mine.
This really came down to two coaches for me: Seahawks offensive coordinator Klint Kubiak and Rams defensive coordinator Chris Shula. Kubiak has helmed one of the most explosive offenses in the NFL, and has mostly done it through the air, with Sam Darnold and Jaxon Smith-Njigba forming one of the NFL’s most effective connections. Auxiliary players have also had strong years and the offensive line, while improved, still has holes and Kubiak helps it punch above its weight because of a friendly scheme. The run game still has a ways to go, but I’m excited to see Rashid Shaheed dropped into this offense.
I ended up giving it to Shula
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I caught 2 minutes of that game at the gym, and all I saw was PC shoving gum into his mouth. It reminded me of a cartoon.
More gum = better results.
More gum = better results.
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Agreed. A young man in the prime of his life. Gone. So sad.Millikin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 3:24 amThis is an insane and sad story. The guy had his best NFL game a few days earlier. Calls his girlfriend, family, says he's going to end it... Goes on a wild ride, cops chase him, lose him, he gets in an accident, hours later gets found dead from suicide in a port-a-potty.
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Michael K.
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Look, I understand you have a strange mancrush on Pete, so will admit that I am positive that you spent way more time scouring the internet for positive Pete Carroll news this offseason. But do you actually remember guys that know football gushing about this move, and what it would mean to the Raiders? Because I don't. I actually think this season is basically exactly what most expected. You don't put a guy that one time admitted they spent more time preparing to protest the anthem than they did the game in charge of millionaire's living in Vegas!Donn Beach wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 4:36 am
Rebuilding? Remember, the NFL advanced metrics guys had the raiders off season rated higher than the seahawks, points added. Their record was supposed to be better
Everything I have ever said about Pete is that he knows one way and refuses to adapt. When he got here? He knew a TON about the guys coming out of college and the young guys in the NFL that had recently been in college. That is why we built such a young and hungry team. He surrounds himself with what he knows. Well? Now he knows Geno, Tyler and Jamal. At what point during this season have they looked like a functional NFL team? It is no different than how he finished here, he just had more talent here. Jeanty is a stud, I get that, but if anyone should have understood the sins of trying to play an NFL game with a dogshit O Line? It should have been Pete. Jeanty wasn't a luxury they had, not if they wanted to improve this year.
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I guess that make MM just a bit better of a HC than PC. lolDonn Beach wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 4:36 amRebuilding? Remember, the NFL advanced metrics guys had the raiders off season rated higher than the seahawks, points added. Their record was supposed to be betterD-train wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 4:02 amThey were asking the same thing on national sports radio live Vegas would hire the oldest coach in the history of the NFL for a rebuild.Michael K. wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 3:49 amPete could have, and should have stayed retired. He is the same out dated dinosaur he was when he was here. Sorry, I can't feel sorry for him. His stubborn refusal to ever adapt is what made this franchise a real good team and not a dynasty. Seriously, why come out of retirement to coach Vegas?
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Doesn't sound like much of a prime if he was looking to end it.douche wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 3:06 pmAgreed. A young man in the prime of his life. Gone. So sad.Millikin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 3:24 amThis is an insane and sad story. The guy had his best NFL game a few days earlier. Calls his girlfriend, family, says he's going to end it... Goes on a wild ride, cops chase him, lose him, he gets in an accident, hours later gets found dead from suicide in a port-a-potty.
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Michael K.
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He had a point to prove. It's exactly why they went all out in the second half to win the Pre-Season game against us. The point on Pete has been made years ago....he refuses to adapt, and is now a below average NFL coach. Doesn't change who he was, or at least it shouldn't....but sure, his image is a bit tarnished.Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 4:08 pmDoesn't sound like much of a prime if he was looking to end it.
It was like ESPN continuing to run Lee Corso out there the last two years of his career. That is what Pete reminds me of. Dude, just retire already.